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From: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
To: 'Jan Beulich' <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Julien Grall (julien.grall@arm.com)" <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	'Boris Ostrovsky' <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	"xen-devel(xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org)"
	<xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: debian stretch dom0 + xen 4.9 fails to boot
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 15:47:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c394e22eb2d24f379e34b402b69c3bb6@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <593ADDBC020000780016171F@prv-mh.provo.novell.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
> Sent: 09 June 2017 16:41
> To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
> Cc: Julien Grall (julien.grall@arm.com) <julien.grall@arm.com>; Andrew
> Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>; xen-devel(xen-
> devel@lists.xenproject.org) <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>; 'Boris
> Ostrovsky' <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>; Juergen Gross
> <jgross@suse.com>
> Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] debian stretch dom0 + xen 4.9 fails to boot
> 
> >>> On 09.06.17 at 17:14, <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com> wrote:
> > I've characterised the issue some more and it appears to be an overflow
> > inside the int13 handler if es:bx is less than 512 bytes below a 4k boundary.
> > I modified the code to use a hardcoded segment, which I set at 0x6000, and
> > all values of bx up to 0xe00 resulted in a good MBR signature. Values above
> > 0xe00 but below 0xe20 resulted in the buffer not being identified as a valid
> > MBR (I guess because the 0xAA55 fell off) and values of bx above 0xe20
> > resulted in either a hang (sometimes with a black screen) or a reboot.
> > This led me to believe that backing out all my debug code and adding a
> > '.align 512' just before the definition of boot_edd_info should result in a
> > successful boot. Alas this appears not to be the case... I seem to need at
> > least 2k alignment. I wonder whether it may be more robust to go for 4k
> > alignment though.
> 
> At least until we've seen (and merged) Jürgen's further trampoline
> adjustments, we need to be careful with growing its overall size.
> Memory below 1Mb is known to be scarce specifically on some EFI
> systems, and we're currently still allocating space for all of the
> trampoline instead of just its permanent part. Even on non-EFI
> systems I'd prefer the trampoline to remain as small as possible.
> 
> With what you say about the requirements this buggy BIOS has
> I wonder whether we couldn't help ourselves by doing I/O to
> other than boot_edd_info. Especially if we did the EDD stuff last
> (rather than before video), a good portion of the boot time only
> trampoline space will no longer be needed.

I think that would be sensible, but I was looking for the simplest fix/workaround possible for 4.9 and setting the alignment seems to it.

> 
> Otoh I wonder where a system this buggy shouldn't be declared
> unusable (until a suitable BIOS update becomes available). Did
> you check what constraints Linux places on the buffer used for
> I/O? IOW can you judge whether bare metal Linux just happens
> to work (just like older Xen did), or has been fixed to cope with
> such a situation?
> 

I'll go have a look and the linux edd code. I'm also trying a BIOS update (which is proving to be trickier than I thought as it seems to have killed networking in some weird way).

  Paul

> Jan
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-06 14:32 debian stretch dom0 + xen 4.9 fails to boot Paul Durrant
2017-06-06 15:11 ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-06 15:51   ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-06 16:28     ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-06 17:00       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-06-07  8:07         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07  8:09           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07  8:19             ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 14:05           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-06-07  8:07         ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07  8:27           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]           ` <5937D4FF02000078001602F6@suse.com>
2017-06-07  9:03             ` Juergen Gross
2017-06-07  9:05               ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07  9:09                 ` Andrew Cooper
2017-06-07 10:36                   ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 11:06                     ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 11:57                       ` Juergen Gross
2017-06-07 12:02                         ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 12:13                           ` Juergen Gross
2017-06-07 12:19                           ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 12:26                             ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 12:34                               ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 11:50                     ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 11:55                       ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 12:00                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 12:46                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 12:55                             ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 15:06                               ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 15:33                                 ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 15:40                                   ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 15:52                                     ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-08 12:42                                       ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-08 12:46                                         ` Juergen Gross
2017-06-08 13:18                                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-08 13:24                                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-09 12:19                                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-09 13:05                                             ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-09 13:52                                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-06-09 15:14                                                 ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-09 15:41                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-09 15:47                                                     ` Paul Durrant [this message]
2017-06-09 15:58                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12  8:14                                                       ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 10:40                                                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12 10:44                                                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 10:53                                                             ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 11:12                                                               ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12 12:05                                                                 ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 12:25                                                                   ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 13:54                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12 14:28                                                                     ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 14:43                                                                       ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 15:03                                                                         ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 15:07                                                                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12 15:21                                                                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-06 17:40     ` Julien Grall
2017-06-07  8:05       ` Paul Durrant

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