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From: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
To: 'Boris Ostrovsky' <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	'Jan Beulich' <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "xen-devel (xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org)"
	<xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	"Julien Grall (julien.grall@arm.com)" <julien.grall@arm.com>
Subject: Re: debian stretch dom0 + xen 4.9 fails to boot
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 08:07:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8a91bf2426a4fc99f6a0e633e853402@AMSPEX02CL03.citrite.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3a0eb227-8302-50db-84a6-b07893ab0e91@oracle.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Ostrovsky [mailto:boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com]
> Sent: 06 June 2017 18:00
> To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>; 'Jan Beulich'
> <JBeulich@suse.com>
> Cc: xen-devel (xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org) <xen-
> devel@lists.xenproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] debian stretch dom0 + xen 4.9 fails to boot
> 
> On 06/06/2017 12:28 PM, Paul Durrant wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Xen-devel [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Paul Durrant
> >> Sent: 06 June 2017 16:52
> >> To: 'Jan Beulich' <JBeulich@suse.com>
> >> Cc: xen-devel (xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org) <xen-
> >> devel@lists.xenproject.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] debian stretch dom0 + xen 4.9 fails to boot
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
> >>> Sent: 06 June 2017 16:11
> >>> To: Paul Durrant <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com>
> >>> Cc: xen-devel (xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org) <xen-
> >>> devel@lists.xenproject.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] debian stretch dom0 + xen 4.9 fails to boot
> >>>
> >>>>>> On 06.06.17 at 16:32, <Paul.Durrant@citrix.com> wrote:
> >>>> I've been having fun setting up a new test rig...
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a skull canyon NUC and I put debian stretch (rc4) on it (so that's a
> >>>> 4.9 kernel) and then tried building and installing the latest Xen staging-
> 4.9
> >>>> code. The system failed to boot... basically it got stuck before even
> >>>> managing to get sufficiently into Xen to spit out anything on the
> console.
> >>>> Xen 4.8 OTOH booted just fine so I started bisecting and after 14
> >> iterations
> >>>> I got down to the following commit is being the problem:
> >>>>
> >>>> commit c0655e492e6b33e26ec9cd33f59725d0db89cdd0
> >>>> Author: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
> >>>> Date:   Fri Mar 24 14:18:54 2017 +0100
> >>>>
> >>>>     x86: split boot trampoline into permanent and temporary part
> >>>>
> >>>>     The hypervisor needs a trampoline in low memory for early boot and
> >>>>     later for bringing up cpus and during wakeup from suspend. Today
> this
> >>>>     trampoline is kept completely even if most of it isn't needed later.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Split the trampoline into a permanent part and a temporary part
> >> needed
> >>>>     at early boot only. Introduce a new entry at the boundary.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Reduce the stack for wakeup code in order for the permanent
> >>>>     trampoline to fit in a single page. 4k of stack seems excessive, about
> >>>>     3k should be more than enough.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Add an ASSERT() to the linker script to ensure the wakeup stack is
> >>>>     always at least 3k.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Signed-off-by: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
> >>>>     Reviewed-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> To verify this I checked out master, reverted that commit, and tried
> again.
> >>>> The NUC still booted fine.
> >>> Well, interesting, but I don't think it is very realistic to expect any
> >>> fix with just the information you supply. There must be something
> >>> rather special about that system, and likely it would help if we
> >>> knew what that is. E.g. an unusual E820 map. Worse would be if
> >>> they used memory outside of properly marked E820 regions in a
> >>> way colliding with what we do.
> >>>
> >>> Otherwise I'm afraid we need to hope for you to debug the issue.
> >>>
> >> Yes, I was posting this more a heads-up for the moment, so that 4.9 does
> not
> >> go out with this regression.
> >>
> >> I will try to figure out what is going on... My initial thoughts on looking at
> what
> >> the patch does are that it may be something to do with the fact I am using
> a
> >> vga console rather than a serial one. I need to try another 4.9 on another
> >> system (gigabyte brix) to see if the problem manifests there too. I'll also
> have
> >> to play with the BIOS settings on the skull canyon.
> >>
> > The problem definitely doesn't manifest on the brix, so the next theory is
> that it is something to do with the BIOS of the skull canyon.
> >
> 
> 
> FWIW, one of machines in our test farm choked on this very patch. I
> don't remember details now but essentially it turned out that syslinux
> (we are pxe-booting) could not handle changes in ELF sections layout
> (the way syslinux calculated how to load the binary into memory resulted
> in overlap of some sort).
> 
> I hacked it (mboot.c32 specifically) to work around this but never came
> up with a proper solution.
> 

In my case it was grub2... and thinking about it I am running an older version on the brix so I guess it may still manifest there if I update. Either way it sounds like it may be better to revert the patch until the issue is better understood.

  Paul

> -boris


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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-06 14:32 debian stretch dom0 + xen 4.9 fails to boot Paul Durrant
2017-06-06 15:11 ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-06 15:51   ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-06 16:28     ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-06 17:00       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-06-07  8:07         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07  8:09           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07  8:19             ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 14:05           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-06-07  8:07         ` Paul Durrant [this message]
2017-06-07  8:27           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]           ` <5937D4FF02000078001602F6@suse.com>
2017-06-07  9:03             ` Juergen Gross
2017-06-07  9:05               ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07  9:09                 ` Andrew Cooper
2017-06-07 10:36                   ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 11:06                     ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 11:57                       ` Juergen Gross
2017-06-07 12:02                         ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 12:13                           ` Juergen Gross
2017-06-07 12:19                           ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 12:26                             ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 12:34                               ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 11:50                     ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 11:55                       ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 12:00                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 12:46                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 12:55                             ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 15:06                               ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 15:33                                 ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-07 15:40                                   ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-07 15:52                                     ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-08 12:42                                       ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-08 12:46                                         ` Juergen Gross
2017-06-08 13:18                                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-08 13:24                                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-09 12:19                                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-09 13:05                                             ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-09 13:52                                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-06-09 15:14                                                 ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-09 15:41                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-09 15:47                                                     ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-09 15:58                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12  8:14                                                       ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 10:40                                                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12 10:44                                                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 10:53                                                             ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 11:12                                                               ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12 12:05                                                                 ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 12:25                                                                   ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 13:54                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12 14:28                                                                     ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 14:43                                                                       ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 15:03                                                                         ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-12 15:07                                                                         ` Jan Beulich
2017-06-12 15:21                                                                           ` Paul Durrant
2017-06-06 17:40     ` Julien Grall
2017-06-07  8:05       ` Paul Durrant

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