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From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
	Leon Alrae <leon.alrae@imgtec.com>
Cc: Yongbok Kim <yongbok.kim@imgtec.com>,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] target-mips: Misaligned memory accesses for MSA
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 14:36:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5553C3C2.9070101@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1505132210380.1538@eddie.linux-mips.org>

On 05/13/2015 02:21 PM, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015, Leon Alrae wrote:
> 
>>> Certainly we do.  It's all in softmmu_template.h.
>>
>> I believe the problem is that MSA vector register's size is 16-bytes
>> (this DATA_SIZE isn't supported in softmmu_template) and MSA load/store
>> is supposed to be atomic.
> 
>  Not really AFAICT.  Here's what the specification says[1]:
> 
> "The vector load instruction is atomic at the element level with no 
> guaranteed ordering among elements, i.e. each element load is an atomic 
> operation issued in no particular order with respect to the element's 
> vector position."
> 
> and[2]:
> 
> "The vector store instruction is atomic at the element level with no 
> guaranteed ordering among elements, i.e. each element store is an atomic 
> operation issued in no particular order with respect to the element's 
> vector position."
> 
> so you only need to get atomic up to 8 bytes (with LD.D and ST.D, less 
> with the narrower vector elements), and that looks supported to me.

There's "atomic" in the transactional sense, and then there's "atomic" in the
visibility to other actors on the bus sense.

Presumably Leon is talking about the first, wherein we must ensure all writes
to both pages must succeed.  Which just means making sure that both pages are
present and writable before modifying any memory.

This patch set *is* doing too much work for loads, since the loads can simply
be issued, and the result written back to the register at the end after all
have succeeded.


r~

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-13 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-13 15:37 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] target-mips: Add support for misaligned accesses Yongbok Kim
2015-05-13 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/2] target-mips: Misaligned memory accesses for R6 Yongbok Kim
2015-05-13 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] target-mips: Misaligned memory accesses for MSA Yongbok Kim
2015-05-13 19:28   ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-13 19:56     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-05-13 19:58       ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-13 20:59         ` Leon Alrae
2015-05-13 21:21           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-05-13 21:36             ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2015-05-13 22:54               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-05-14  8:51                 ` Leon Alrae
2015-05-14 11:22                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-05-13 21:31           ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-14  9:00     ` Yongbok Kim
2015-05-14  9:46       ` Yongbok Kim
2015-05-14 18:44         ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-14  9:50     ` Leon Alrae
2015-05-14 15:27       ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-14 19:12         ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-15 12:09           ` Leon Alrae
2015-05-15 13:43             ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-15 14:04               ` Leon Alrae

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