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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-LthD3rsA81gm4RdzfppkhA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tomasz Figa <tfiga-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-msm
	<linux-arm-msm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"open list:IOMMU DRIVERS"
	<iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/5] driver core: Find an existing link between two devices
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:14:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11eae0bc-7921-e598-9c01-63498400c85b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2705105.V6KYPvoJqj-yvgW3jdyMHm1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>

Hi Rafael,

On 14/03/18 11:57, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:50:54 PM CET Tomasz Figa wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw-LthD3rsA81gm4RdzfppkhA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:23:34 PM CET Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 7:34 PM, Vivek Gautam
>>>> <vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tomasz,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:45 PM, Tomasz Figa <tfiga-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Vivek,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Vivek Gautam
>>>>>> <vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> The lists managing the device-links can be traversed to
>>>>>>> find the link between two devices. The device_link_add() APIs
>>>>>>> does traverse these lists to check if there's already a link
>>>>>>> setup between the two devices.
>>>>>>> So, add a new APIs, device_link_find(), to find an existing
>>>>>>> device link between two devices - suppliers and consumers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm wondering if this API would be useful for anything else that the
>>>>>> problem we're trying to solve with deleting links without storing them
>>>>>> anywhere. Perhaps a device_link_del_dev(consumer, supplier) would be a
>>>>>> better alternative?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea, that sounds simpler i think. Will add this API instead of
>>>>> find_link(). Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps let's wait for a moment to see if there are other opinions. :)
>>>>
>>>> Rafael, Lucas, any thoughts?
>>>
>>> It is not clear to me what the device_link_del_dev(consumer, supplier) would do.
>>
>> It would delete a link between consumer and supplier.
> 
> If there's one I suppose.
> 
> I'm wondering if you are somehow trying to address the same problem as the
> device links reference counting patch from Lukas that has been queued up for 4.17
> already.

Not quite - the issue here is that we have one supplier with an 
arbitrarily large number of consumers, and would prefer that supplier 
not to have to spend a whole bunch of memory to store all the struct 
device_link pointers for the sole reason of having something to give to 
device_link_del() at the end, given that the device links code is 
already keeping track of everything internally anyway.

The current API would permit doing this:

	iommu_attach(dev) {
		...
		if (!device_link_add(dev, iommu, IOMMU_LINK_FLAGS))
			return -ENODEV;
		...
	}

	iommu_detach(dev) {
		...
		// Will return the existing link from earlier
		link = device_link_add(dev, iommu, IOMMU_LINK_FLAGS);
		device_link_del(link);
		// Needed once refcounting is in place
		//device_link_del(link);
		...
	}

but it looks so wacky and non-obvious that we'd like to encapsulate the 
same behaviour into a more formal interface (my personal naming 
preference would be device_link_remove(consumer, supplier)).

Robin.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: Vivek Gautam <vivek.gautam@codeaurora.org>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"open list:IOMMU DRIVERS" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	Sricharan R <sricharan@codeaurora.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Archit Taneja <architt@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/5] driver core: Find an existing link between two devices
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:14:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11eae0bc-7921-e598-9c01-63498400c85b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2705105.V6KYPvoJqj@aspire.rjw.lan>

Hi Rafael,

On 14/03/18 11:57, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:50:54 PM CET Tomasz Figa wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:23:34 PM CET Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 7:34 PM, Vivek Gautam
>>>> <vivek.gautam@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tomasz,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:45 PM, Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Vivek,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Vivek Gautam
>>>>>> <vivek.gautam@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> The lists managing the device-links can be traversed to
>>>>>>> find the link between two devices. The device_link_add() APIs
>>>>>>> does traverse these lists to check if there's already a link
>>>>>>> setup between the two devices.
>>>>>>> So, add a new APIs, device_link_find(), to find an existing
>>>>>>> device link between two devices - suppliers and consumers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm wondering if this API would be useful for anything else that the
>>>>>> problem we're trying to solve with deleting links without storing them
>>>>>> anywhere. Perhaps a device_link_del_dev(consumer, supplier) would be a
>>>>>> better alternative?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea, that sounds simpler i think. Will add this API instead of
>>>>> find_link(). Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps let's wait for a moment to see if there are other opinions. :)
>>>>
>>>> Rafael, Lucas, any thoughts?
>>>
>>> It is not clear to me what the device_link_del_dev(consumer, supplier) would do.
>>
>> It would delete a link between consumer and supplier.
> 
> If there's one I suppose.
> 
> I'm wondering if you are somehow trying to address the same problem as the
> device links reference counting patch from Lukas that has been queued up for 4.17
> already.

Not quite - the issue here is that we have one supplier with an 
arbitrarily large number of consumers, and would prefer that supplier 
not to have to spend a whole bunch of memory to store all the struct 
device_link pointers for the sole reason of having something to give to 
device_link_del() at the end, given that the device links code is 
already keeping track of everything internally anyway.

The current API would permit doing this:

	iommu_attach(dev) {
		...
		if (!device_link_add(dev, iommu, IOMMU_LINK_FLAGS))
			return -ENODEV;
		...
	}

	iommu_detach(dev) {
		...
		// Will return the existing link from earlier
		link = device_link_add(dev, iommu, IOMMU_LINK_FLAGS);
		device_link_del(link);
		// Needed once refcounting is in place
		//device_link_del(link);
		...
	}

but it looks so wacky and non-obvious that we'd like to encapsulate the 
same behaviour into a more formal interface (my personal naming 
preference would be device_link_remove(consumer, supplier)).

Robin.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-14 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-13  8:55 [PATCH v9 0/5] iommu/arm-smmu: Add runtime pm/sleep support Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  8:55 ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found] ` <20180313085534.11650-1-vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-13  8:55   ` [PATCH v9 1/5] driver core: Find an existing link between two devices Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  8:55     ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  9:40     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <8903307.QazHKW0JrR-yvgW3jdyMHm1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-13  9:55         ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  9:55           ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]           ` <CAFp+6iE=0PD6fZZVd+bC1Z95Lkt=X-F4YOXz8EtdiXL=jsC1RA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-13 12:49             ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-13 12:49               ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]               ` <4eaf2006-ea68-d9e9-a0db-89acec0ea299-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-13 14:39                 ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13 14:39                   ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]     ` <20180313085534.11650-2-vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-13  9:58       ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  9:58         ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13 10:15     ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]       ` <CAAFQd5DXvnjaFw4Ct1Xn90nQZ4F4dLtov0ymG-tycQt5oLNpiQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-13 10:34         ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13 10:34           ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13 11:23           ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]             ` <CAAFQd5A5Rj1KAZjUc5ZUKuKnbkA5Q6aLw9z0H3_kfyBQOOF-gw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-14 11:12               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-14 11:12                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <2217404.A2W3Iek6du-yvgW3jdyMHm1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-14 11:50                   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-03-14 11:50                     ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                     ` <CAAFQd5CQXY0Efv+2MC1kTVW5q4eZjJ=gwVaR-LA=3agnSSHzUw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-14 11:57                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-14 11:57                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                         ` <2705105.V6KYPvoJqj-yvgW3jdyMHm1GS7QM15AGw@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-14 12:14                           ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2018-03-14 12:14                             ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-14 12:27                             ` Lukas Wunner
     [not found]                               ` <20180314122759.GB19651-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-20  7:56                                 ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-20  7:56                                   ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-14 12:23                 ` Lukas Wunner
2018-03-13  8:55   ` [PATCH v9 2/5] iommu/arm-smmu: Add pm_runtime/sleep ops Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  8:55     ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  8:55   ` [PATCH v9 3/5] iommu/arm-smmu: Invoke pm_runtime during probe, add/remove device Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  8:55     ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]     ` <20180313085534.11650-4-vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-14 17:46       ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-14 17:46         ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <77ed3675-0af0-b36a-5f76-b920d7a4c8e0-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-15  7:17           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-03-15  7:17             ` Tomasz Figa
2018-03-20  9:49           ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-20  9:49             ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  8:55   ` [PATCH v9 4/5] iommu/arm-smmu: Add the device_link between masters and smmu Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  8:55     ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]     ` <20180313085534.11650-5-vivek.gautam-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-14 17:50       ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-14 17:50         ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <8b427ea2-5c13-4712-13d1-e4c1aed0779e-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-15  6:18           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-03-15  6:18             ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]             ` <CAAFQd5AqERQMLsJNLAsVXox79kZ+ZtpCUuMSutn70FGK-3Q7vw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-15 10:44               ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-15 10:44                 ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-15  8:57           ` Vivek Gautam
2018-03-15  8:57             ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]             ` <CAFp+6iEFDXKdS_mTgrrpCX2isMAT3XJifRV0FYxV+PFpVGV=2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-15 11:12               ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-15 11:12                 ` Robin Murphy
2018-03-13  8:55   ` [PATCH v9 5/5] iommu/arm-smmu: Add support for qcom,smmu-v2 variant Vivek Gautam
2018-03-13  8:55     ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]     ` <61d30fff-1bf8-d2c1-bbe9-f93de836ae77@huawei.com>
     [not found]       ` <7d5af071-ef98-8461-3ce9-e84fc0b3956a@codeaurora.org>
     [not found]         ` <7d5af071-ef98-8461-3ce9-e84fc0b3956a-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-03-28  6:11           ` Yisheng Xie
2018-03-28  6:11             ` Yisheng Xie
     [not found]             ` <d97872fe-5e8e-cc27-e385-64cea8ea2458-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-10 13:14               ` [PATCH v9 5/5] iommu/arm-smmu: Add support for qcom, smmu-v2 variant Tomasz Figa
2018-04-10 13:14                 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] iommu/arm-smmu: Add support for qcom,smmu-v2 variant Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                 ` <CAAFQd5Cj3qaqt8ACabZwN4ZKaNbF9N9suGVaOKD8-kNxgfeeVA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-11  1:22                   ` Yisheng Xie
2018-04-11  1:22                     ` Yisheng Xie
     [not found]                     ` <65a57964-805b-3a38-71a2-0c383af30539-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-11  5:15                       ` Vivek Gautam
2018-04-11  5:15                         ` Vivek Gautam
     [not found]                         ` <ff1c730f-0009-58e5-cf4a-45fe9ab93d1e-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-12  1:55                           ` Yisheng Xie
2018-04-12  1:55                             ` Yisheng Xie

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