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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 18:32:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202007041811.45236EE598@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9tyjdzU-O2nAWFngGSE=aSfUsaRer9x3bk8hpyhCOX0Bew@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 09:39:29AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> I don't totally agree on that, because like the CoC discussion, people
> need concrete examples. People need reasons, saying simply "be
> inclusive" doesn't work.
> 
> You say "be inclusive" people don't think about it, they just go "I'm
> inclusive" and proceed, never questioning what it means to be
> inclusive, they normalise inclusivity to their self image and within
> their lives where they might never confront anything like this.
> 
> I don't doubt we get the American/Ottoman/Barbery coast people and the
> correct answer to those people is to tell them to examine why they
> suddenly care about Barbery slavery now when they have never even
> heard or worried about it before. Why haven't they submitted patches
> removing slavery terminology from the kernel before?

Right; this part of the patch provides a temporal explanation for "but
why now?" and acts as an internal reference, instead of pointing to
external[1] sources, which lack the Linux-specific contextualization.

Additionally, I think it provides rebuttals to many of the specious
arguments against inclusive terminology (and it could perhaps gain
more, as we've already seen in this thread, against slippery slope
arguments). It also attempts to acknowledge what this change in the
kernel processes provides to the world in general: it's a fairly local
change to make our development community less disruptive to those that
would seek to join it -- it does not, and cannot, solve global racism
(though that would be nice).

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-knodel-terminology-01.html

-- 
Kees Cook
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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 18:32:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202007041811.45236EE598@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9tyjdzU-O2nAWFngGSE=aSfUsaRer9x3bk8hpyhCOX0Bew@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 09:39:29AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> I don't totally agree on that, because like the CoC discussion, people
> need concrete examples. People need reasons, saying simply "be
> inclusive" doesn't work.
> 
> You say "be inclusive" people don't think about it, they just go "I'm
> inclusive" and proceed, never questioning what it means to be
> inclusive, they normalise inclusivity to their self image and within
> their lives where they might never confront anything like this.
> 
> I don't doubt we get the American/Ottoman/Barbery coast people and the
> correct answer to those people is to tell them to examine why they
> suddenly care about Barbery slavery now when they have never even
> heard or worried about it before. Why haven't they submitted patches
> removing slavery terminology from the kernel before?

Right; this part of the patch provides a temporal explanation for "but
why now?" and acts as an internal reference, instead of pointing to
external[1] sources, which lack the Linux-specific contextualization.

Additionally, I think it provides rebuttals to many of the specious
arguments against inclusive terminology (and it could perhaps gain
more, as we've already seen in this thread, against slippery slope
arguments). It also attempts to acknowledge what this change in the
kernel processes provides to the world in general: it's a fairly local
change to make our development community less disruptive to those that
would seek to join it -- it does not, and cannot, solve global racism
(though that would be nice).

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-knodel-terminology-01.html

-- 
Kees Cook

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 18:32:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202007041811.45236EE598@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9tyjdzU-O2nAWFngGSE=aSfUsaRer9x3bk8hpyhCOX0Bew@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 09:39:29AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> I don't totally agree on that, because like the CoC discussion, people
> need concrete examples. People need reasons, saying simply "be
> inclusive" doesn't work.
> 
> You say "be inclusive" people don't think about it, they just go "I'm
> inclusive" and proceed, never questioning what it means to be
> inclusive, they normalise inclusivity to their self image and within
> their lives where they might never confront anything like this.
> 
> I don't doubt we get the American/Ottoman/Barbery coast people and the
> correct answer to those people is to tell them to examine why they
> suddenly care about Barbery slavery now when they have never even
> heard or worried about it before. Why haven't they submitted patches
> removing slavery terminology from the kernel before?

Right; this part of the patch provides a temporal explanation for "but
why now?" and acts as an internal reference, instead of pointing to
external[1] sources, which lack the Linux-specific contextualization.

Additionally, I think it provides rebuttals to many of the specious
arguments against inclusive terminology (and it could perhaps gain
more, as we've already seen in this thread, against slippery slope
arguments). It also attempts to acknowledge what this change in the
kernel processes provides to the world in general: it's a fairly local
change to make our development community less disruptive to those that
would seek to join it -- it does not, and cannot, solve global racism
(though that would be nice).

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-knodel-terminology-01.html

-- 
Kees Cook

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2020-07-04 20:02 [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:02 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:02 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:31 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 20:31   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 20:31   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 23:41   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:41     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:41     ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  0:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-05  0:10       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-05  1:10       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  1:10         ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  1:10         ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05  2:44         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-05  2:44           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-05  2:44           ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-06 11:15         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 11:15           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 11:15           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 15:53           ` Kees Cook
2020-07-06 15:53             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-06 15:53             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  2:54       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:54         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:54         ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 20:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 20:44   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 20:44   ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 23:34   ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:34     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:34     ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:12     ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  2:12       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  2:12       ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  2:56       ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:56         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:56         ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  3:23         ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05  3:23           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-05  3:23           ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05  3:26         ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  3:26           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  3:26           ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 21:14 ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:14   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:14   ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:25 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:25   ` James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:25   ` James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:51   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-04 21:51     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-04 21:51     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-04 22:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-05 11:59     ` Laura Abbott
2020-07-05 16:39       ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05 17:21     ` Chris Mason
2020-07-05 20:26       ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  2:05     ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-07  2:52       ` James Bottomley
2020-07-07  3:33         ` Dan Williams
2020-07-04 23:39   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:39     ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:39     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  0:08     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-05  0:08       ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-05  0:08       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-05  1:32     ` Kees Cook [this message]
2020-07-05  1:32       ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  1:32       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05 17:50     ` opal hart
2020-07-05 17:50       ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " opal hart
2020-07-05 17:50       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " opal hart
2020-07-04 23:42 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:42   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:42   ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  0:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-05  0:12   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06  7:06   ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:06     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:06     ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:10   ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:10     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:10     ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:22     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06  7:22       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06  7:22       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06  7:53       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06  7:53         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06  7:53         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06 10:22         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 10:22           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 10:22           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 12:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:51           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:51           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:59           ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 12:59             ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-06 12:59             ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:04             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:04               ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:04               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:30               ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:30                 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:30                 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-09 11:11                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 11:11                   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 11:11                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-13  4:25                   ` Vinod Koul
2020-07-13  4:25                     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Vinod Koul
2020-07-13  4:25                     ` Vinod Koul
2020-07-13 15:55                     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-13 15:55                       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-13 15:55                       ` Dan Williams
2020-07-05  0:41 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05  0:41   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  0:41   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  4:30   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:30     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:30     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-10 16:52     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-10 16:52       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-10 16:52       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-05  4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-05  4:55   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Willy Tarreau
2020-07-05  4:55   ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-06  3:13   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06  3:13     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06  3:13     ` Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06 12:45   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Chris Mason via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-06 12:45     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Chris Mason
2020-07-06 12:45     ` Chris Mason
2020-07-06 14:06     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 14:06       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 14:06       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 15:55       ` Chris Mason via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-06 15:55         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Chris Mason
2020-07-06 15:55         ` Chris Mason
2020-07-06 16:06     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-06 16:06       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-06 16:06       ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07  4:17       ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:17         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:17         ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 15:22   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:22     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:22     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:40     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 15:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 15:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 13:23 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 13:23   ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 16:29 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-06 16:29   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-06 16:29   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-07  4:00   ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:00     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:00     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  5:56   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  5:56     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-07  5:56     ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  6:49     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07  6:49       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07  6:49       ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 13:37       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 13:37         ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 13:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:24         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:24           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:24           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:33           ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:33             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:33             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:41             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:41               ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:41               ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:55               ` Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:55                 ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:55                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07  6:56     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07  6:56       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07  6:56       ` Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07  8:54       ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  8:54         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-07  8:54         ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 13:41         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 13:41           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 14:45           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 14:45             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 14:45             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 20:56             ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 20:56               ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-07 20:56               ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-07 21:48         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 21:48           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 21:48           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 12:13       ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07 12:13         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-07 12:13         ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 18:30 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 18:30   ` Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 18:30   ` Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 23:58   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 23:58     ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-09 10:43     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 10:43       ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 16:01       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:01         ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:01         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:13         ` Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:13           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:13           ` Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:32           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-09 16:32             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-09 16:32             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-09 16:35           ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-09 16:35             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-09 16:35             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-10  9:38         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-10  9:38           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07  4:04   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:04     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:04     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 19:15 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-06 19:15   ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 19:15   ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07  0:48   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07  0:48     ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07  0:48     ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 21:26     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 21:26       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 21:26       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 23:54       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 23:54         ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 23:54         ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07  4:08   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:08     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:08     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  9:36     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-07  9:36       ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07  9:36       ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 21:31 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 21:31   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 21:31   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:10   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:17     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:17       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:17       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:28       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:28         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:28         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 23:03         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 23:03           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 23:03           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-08  3:42           ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-08  3:42             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-08  3:42             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-08 10:51             ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-08 10:51               ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-07  6:56 ` SeongJae Park via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-07  6:56   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " SeongJae Park
2020-07-07  6:56   ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-08  7:12   ` Dan Williams
2020-07-08  7:12     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-08  7:12     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-08  9:28     ` SeongJae Park via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-08  9:28       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " SeongJae Park
2020-07-08  9:28       ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-07  7:51 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-07  7:51   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Christian Brauner
2020-07-07  7:51   ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-08 18:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 18:40   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-17  8:35 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-17  8:35   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Pavel Machek
2020-07-17  8:35   ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-26 15:30 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 15:30   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 15:30   ` Laurent Pinchart

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