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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 09:41:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200707094147.213e0a82@oasis.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202007070137.3ADBEDC@keescook>

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:54:23 -0700
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:

> "I will whitelist the syscall" -- sounds correct to me (same for
> "it is whitelisted" or "it is in whitelisting mode").
> 
> "I will allow-list the syscall" -- sounds wrong to me (same for
> "it is allow-listed" or "it is in allow-listing mode").

That's because we can't just make "allow-list" a drop in replacement
for "whitelist" as I too (native English speaker) find it awkward. But
then we don't need to make it a drop in replacement.

"I will whitelist the syscall" will become "I will add the syscall to
the allow-list", which sounds perfectly fine, and even better than
saying "I will add the syscall to the whitelist".

-- Steve
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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: "Harrosh, Boaz" <Boaz.Harrosh@netapp.com>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>
Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 09:41:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200707094147.213e0a82@oasis.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202007070137.3ADBEDC@keescook>

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:54:23 -0700
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:

> "I will whitelist the syscall" -- sounds correct to me (same for
> "it is whitelisted" or "it is in whitelisting mode").
> 
> "I will allow-list the syscall" -- sounds wrong to me (same for
> "it is allow-listed" or "it is in allow-listing mode").

That's because we can't just make "allow-list" a drop in replacement
for "whitelist" as I too (native English speaker) find it awkward. But
then we don't need to make it a drop in replacement.

"I will whitelist the syscall" will become "I will add the syscall to
the allow-list", which sounds perfectly fine, and even better than
saying "I will add the syscall to the whitelist".

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-07 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 281+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-04 20:02 [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:02 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:02 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:31 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 20:31   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 20:31   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 23:41   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:41     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:41     ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  0:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-05  0:10       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-05  1:10       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  1:10         ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  1:10         ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05  2:44         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-05  2:44           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-05  2:44           ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-06 11:15         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 11:15           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 11:15           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 15:53           ` Kees Cook
2020-07-06 15:53             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-06 15:53             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  2:54       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:54         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:54         ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 20:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 20:44   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 20:44   ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 23:34   ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:34     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:34     ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:12     ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  2:12       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  2:12       ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  2:56       ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:56         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  2:56         ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  3:23         ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05  3:23           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-05  3:23           ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05  3:26         ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  3:26           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05  3:26           ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 21:14 ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:14   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:14   ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:25 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:25   ` James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:25   ` James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:51   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-04 21:51     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-04 21:51     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-04 22:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-05 11:59     ` Laura Abbott
2020-07-05 16:39       ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05 17:21     ` Chris Mason
2020-07-05 20:26       ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  2:05     ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-07  2:52       ` James Bottomley
2020-07-07  3:33         ` Dan Williams
2020-07-04 23:39   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:39     ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:39     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  0:08     ` Joe Perches
2020-07-05  0:08       ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-05  0:08       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-05  1:32     ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05  1:32       ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  1:32       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05 17:50     ` opal hart
2020-07-05 17:50       ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " opal hart
2020-07-05 17:50       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " opal hart
2020-07-04 23:42 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:42   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 23:42   ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05  0:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-05  0:12   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06  7:06   ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:06     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:06     ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:10   ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:10     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:10     ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06  7:22     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06  7:22       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06  7:22       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06  7:53       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06  7:53         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06  7:53         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06 10:22         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 10:22           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 10:22           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 12:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:51           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:51           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:59           ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 12:59             ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-06 12:59             ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:04             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:04               ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:04               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:30               ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:30                 ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:30                 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-09 11:11                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 11:11                   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 11:11                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-13  4:25                   ` Vinod Koul
2020-07-13  4:25                     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Vinod Koul
2020-07-13  4:25                     ` Vinod Koul
2020-07-13 15:55                     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-13 15:55                       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-13 15:55                       ` Dan Williams
2020-07-05  0:41 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05  0:41   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05  0:41   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  4:30   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:30     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:30     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-10 16:52     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-10 16:52       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-10 16:52       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-05  4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-05  4:55   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Willy Tarreau
2020-07-05  4:55   ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-06  3:13   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06  3:13     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06  3:13     ` Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06 12:45   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Chris Mason via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-06 12:45     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Chris Mason
2020-07-06 12:45     ` Chris Mason
2020-07-06 14:06     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 14:06       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 14:06       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 15:55       ` Chris Mason via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-06 15:55         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Chris Mason
2020-07-06 15:55         ` Chris Mason
2020-07-06 16:06     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-06 16:06       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-06 16:06       ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07  4:17       ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:17         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:17         ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 15:22   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:22     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:22     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:40     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 15:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 15:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 13:23 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 13:23   ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 16:29 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-06 16:29   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-06 16:29   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-07  4:00   ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:00     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:00     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  5:56   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  5:56     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-07  5:56     ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  6:49     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07  6:49       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07  6:49       ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 13:37       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 13:37         ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 13:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:24         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:24           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:24           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:33           ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:33             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:33             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:41             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:41               ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:41               ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:55               ` Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:55                 ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:55                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Bird, Tim
2020-07-07  6:56     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07  6:56       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07  6:56       ` Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07  8:54       ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07  8:54         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-07  8:54         ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 13:41         ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2020-07-07 13:41           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 14:45           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 14:45             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 14:45             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 20:56             ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 20:56               ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-07 20:56               ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-07 21:48         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 21:48           ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 21:48           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 12:13       ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07 12:13         ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-07 12:13         ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 18:30 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 18:30   ` Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 18:30   ` Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 23:58   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 23:58     ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-09 10:43     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 10:43       ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-09 16:01       ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:01         ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:01         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:13         ` Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:13           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:13           ` Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:32           ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-09 16:32             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-09 16:32             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-09 16:35           ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-09 16:35             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-09 16:35             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-10  9:38         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-10  9:38           ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07  4:04   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:04     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:04     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 19:15 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-06 19:15   ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 19:15   ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07  0:48   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07  0:48     ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07  0:48     ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 21:26     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 21:26       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 21:26       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 23:54       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 23:54         ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 23:54         ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07  4:08   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:08     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  4:08     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07  9:36     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mark Brown
2020-07-07  9:36       ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07  9:36       ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 21:31 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 21:31   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 21:31   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:10   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:17     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:17       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:17       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:28       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:28         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:28         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 23:03         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 23:03           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 23:03           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-08  3:42           ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-08  3:42             ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-08  3:42             ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-08 10:51             ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-08 10:51               ` [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-07  6:56 ` SeongJae Park via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-07  6:56   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " SeongJae Park
2020-07-07  6:56   ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-08  7:12   ` Dan Williams
2020-07-08  7:12     ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Dan Williams
2020-07-08  7:12     ` Dan Williams
2020-07-08  9:28     ` SeongJae Park via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-08  9:28       ` [Tech-board-discuss] " SeongJae Park
2020-07-08  9:28       ` SeongJae Park
2020-07-07  7:51 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-07  7:51   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Christian Brauner
2020-07-07  7:51   ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-08 18:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-07-08 18:40   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Daniel Vetter
2020-07-17  8:35 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-17  8:35   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Pavel Machek
2020-07-17  8:35   ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-26 15:30 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-26 15:30   ` [Tech-board-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
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