From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:41:47 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPM=9ty0tiL_qM_UFv0S0VtARKz_f-Anngc+amDM5LjGAHazhA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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'. Colors to represent a policy requires an indirection. The
>
> how about:
> Using colors to represent a policy requires an indirection.
I'd totally submit that red/black trees while in no way racist, are a
horrible indirection, as it means nothing if you've never interacted
with gambling culture, (and maybe James Bond movies).
left/right trees make naturally more sense and translate into more
languages, so yes I think removal of color naming is a good thing even
for non-racist reasonings.
Dave.
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From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:41:47 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPM=9ty0tiL_qM_UFv0S0VtARKz_f-Anngc+amDM5LjGAHazhA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <920e6dc0-628b-9bad-926a-d1238a373cda@infradead.org>
'. Colors to represent a policy requires an indirection. The
>
> how about:
> Using colors to represent a policy requires an indirection.
I'd totally submit that red/black trees while in no way racist, are a
horrible indirection, as it means nothing if you've never interacted
with gambling culture, (and maybe James Bond movies).
left/right trees make naturally more sense and translate into more
languages, so yes I think removal of color naming is a good thing even
for non-racist reasonings.
Dave.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:41:47 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPM=9ty0tiL_qM_UFv0S0VtARKz_f-Anngc+amDM5LjGAHazhA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <920e6dc0-628b-9bad-926a-d1238a373cda@infradead.org>
'. Colors to represent a policy requires an indirection. The
>
> how about:
> Using colors to represent a policy requires an indirection.
I'd totally submit that red/black trees while in no way racist, are a
horrible indirection, as it means nothing if you've never interacted
with gambling culture, (and maybe James Bond movies).
left/right trees make naturally more sense and translate into more
languages, so yes I think removal of color naming is a good thing even
for non-racist reasonings.
Dave.
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2020-07-04 20:02 [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Dan Williams
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