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From: Yakir Yang <ykk@rock-chips.com>
To: Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>, Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	Fabio Estevam <fabio.estevam@freescale.com>,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@google.com>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk>,
	"linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vincent Palatin <vpalatin@chromium.org>,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Doug Anderson <dianders@google.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Mark Yao <mark.yao@rock-chips.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	Daniel Kurtz <djkurtz@google.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	Ajay kumar <ajaynumb@gmail.com>,
	Andy Yan <andy.yan@rock-chips.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/14] Documentation: drm/bridge: add document for analogix_dp
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:41:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DC383F.4000103@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150825091246.GA14034@ulmo.nvidia.com>

Hi Thierry,

在 2015/8/25 17:12, Thierry Reding 写道:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:48:27AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 06:23:14PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Yakir Yang <ykk@rock-chips.com> wrote:
>>>>> +       -analogix,color-depth:
>>>>> +               number of bits per colour component.
>>>>> +                       COLOR_6 = 0, COLOR_8 = 1, COLOR_10 = 2, COLOR_12 = 3
>>>> This seems pretty generic. Just use 6, 8, 10, or 12 for values. And
>>>> drop the vendor prefix.
>>> Please think about this some more.  What does "color-depth" mean?  Does it
>>> mean the number of bits per colour _component_, or does it mean the total
>>> number of bits to represent a particular colour.  It's confusing as it
>>> stands.
>> Then "component-color-bpp" perhaps?
> There should be no need to have this in DT at all. The BPC is a property
> of the attached panel and it should come from the panel (either the
> panel driver or parsed from EDID if available).

Actually I have send an email about this one to you in version 2, just 
past from that email:

"samsung,color_space" and "samsung,color-depth"

The drm_display_info's color_formats and bpc indicate the monitor 
display ability, but
the edp driver could not take it as input video format directly.

For example, with my DP TV I would found "RGB444 & YCRCB422 & & YCRCB444"
support in drm_display_info.color_formats and 16bit bpc support, but 
RK3288 crtc
driver could only output RGB & ITU formats, so finally 
analogix_dp-rockchip driver
config crtc to RGBaaa 10bpc mode.

In this sutiation, the analogix_dp core driver would pazzled by the 
drm_display_info,
can't chose the right color_space and bpc.

And this is the place that confused me, wish you could give some ideas 
about this one :-)

- Yakir
>>> When we adopted the graph bindings for iMX DRM, I thought exactly at that
>>> time "it would be nice if this could become the standard for binding DRM
>>> components together" but I don't have the authority from either the DT
>>> perspective or the DRM perspective to mandate that.  Neither does anyone
>>> else.  That's the _real_ problem here.
>>>
>>> I've seen several DRM bindings go by which don't use the of-graph stuff,
>>> which means that they'll never be compatible with generic components
>>> which do use the of-graph stuff.
>> It goes beyond bindings IMO. The use of the component framework or not
>> has been at the whim of driver writers as well. It is either used or
>> private APIs are created. I'm using components and my need for it
>> boils down to passing the struct drm_device pointer to the encoder.
>> Other components like panels and bridges have different ways to attach
>> to the DRM driver.
> I certainly support unification, but it needs to be reasonable. There
> are cases where a different structure for the binding work better than
> another and I think this always needs to be evaluated on a case by case
> basis.
>
> Because of that I think it makes sense to make all these framework bits
> opt-in, otherwise we could easily end up in a situation where drivers
> have to be rearchitected (or even DT bindings altered!) in order to be
> able to reuse code.
>
> Thierry



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From: Yakir Yang <ykk@rock-chips.com>
To: Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>, Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	Fabio Estevam <fabio.estevam@freescale.com>,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@google.com>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk>,
	"linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vincent Palatin <vpalatin@chromium.org>,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Doug Anderson <dianders@google.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, linux-arm-kernel@
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/14] Documentation: drm/bridge: add document for analogix_dp
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:41:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DC383F.4000103@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150825091246.GA14034@ulmo.nvidia.com>

Hi Thierry,

在 2015/8/25 17:12, Thierry Reding 写道:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:48:27AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 06:23:14PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Yakir Yang <ykk@rock-chips.com> wrote:
>>>>> +       -analogix,color-depth:
>>>>> +               number of bits per colour component.
>>>>> +                       COLOR_6 = 0, COLOR_8 = 1, COLOR_10 = 2, COLOR_12 = 3
>>>> This seems pretty generic. Just use 6, 8, 10, or 12 for values. And
>>>> drop the vendor prefix.
>>> Please think about this some more.  What does "color-depth" mean?  Does it
>>> mean the number of bits per colour _component_, or does it mean the total
>>> number of bits to represent a particular colour.  It's confusing as it
>>> stands.
>> Then "component-color-bpp" perhaps?
> There should be no need to have this in DT at all. The BPC is a property
> of the attached panel and it should come from the panel (either the
> panel driver or parsed from EDID if available).

Actually I have send an email about this one to you in version 2, just 
past from that email:

"samsung,color_space" and "samsung,color-depth"

The drm_display_info's color_formats and bpc indicate the monitor 
display ability, but
the edp driver could not take it as input video format directly.

For example, with my DP TV I would found "RGB444 & YCRCB422 & & YCRCB444"
support in drm_display_info.color_formats and 16bit bpc support, but 
RK3288 crtc
driver could only output RGB & ITU formats, so finally 
analogix_dp-rockchip driver
config crtc to RGBaaa 10bpc mode.

In this sutiation, the analogix_dp core driver would pazzled by the 
drm_display_info,
can't chose the right color_space and bpc.

And this is the place that confused me, wish you could give some ideas 
about this one :-)

- Yakir
>>> When we adopted the graph bindings for iMX DRM, I thought exactly at that
>>> time "it would be nice if this could become the standard for binding DRM
>>> components together" but I don't have the authority from either the DT
>>> perspective or the DRM perspective to mandate that.  Neither does anyone
>>> else.  That's the _real_ problem here.
>>>
>>> I've seen several DRM bindings go by which don't use the of-graph stuff,
>>> which means that they'll never be compatible with generic components
>>> which do use the of-graph stuff.
>> It goes beyond bindings IMO. The use of the component framework or not
>> has been at the whim of driver writers as well. It is either used or
>> private APIs are created. I'm using components and my need for it
>> boils down to passing the struct drm_device pointer to the encoder.
>> Other components like panels and bridges have different ways to attach
>> to the DRM driver.
> I certainly support unification, but it needs to be reasonable. There
> are cases where a different structure for the binding work better than
> another and I think this always needs to be evaluated on a case by case
> basis.
>
> Because of that I think it makes sense to make all these framework bits
> opt-in, otherwise we could easily end up in a situation where drivers
> have to be rearchitected (or even DT bindings altered!) in order to be
> able to reuse code.
>
> Thierry

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-25  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-19 14:48 [PATCH v3 0/14] Add Analogix Core Display Port Driver Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:48 ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:49 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] drm: exynos/dp: fix code style Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:49   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:49 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] drm: exynos/dp: convert to drm bridge mode Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:49   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] drm: bridge: analogix_dp: split exynos dp driver to bridge dir Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] drm: bridge/analogix_dp: dynamic parse sync_pol & interlace & colorimetry Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] drm: bridge/analogix_dp: fix link_rate & lane_count bug Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  7:22   ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  7:22     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  7:22     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  8:04     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  8:04       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  8:04       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] Documentation: drm/bridge: add document for analogix_dp Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-23 23:23   ` Rob Herring
2015-08-23 23:23     ` Rob Herring
2015-08-23 23:23     ` Rob Herring
2015-08-24  0:43     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24  0:43       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24  0:43       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24  2:42       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24  2:42         ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24  4:20         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24  4:20           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24  4:20           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24 12:48           ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24 12:48             ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24 12:48             ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24 13:03             ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-24 13:03               ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-24 13:03               ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-25  1:37               ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  1:37                 ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  1:37                 ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24 23:49             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24 23:49               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24 23:49               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]               ` <55DBAD90.3040901-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25  1:32                 ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  1:33               ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  1:33                 ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  1:33                 ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  1:35                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-25  1:35                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-25  1:35                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-24  7:40       ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-24  7:40         ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-24  7:40         ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-24 12:55         ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24 12:55           ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24 12:55           ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24  2:19     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24  2:19       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-24 12:57     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-24 12:57       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-24 12:57       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-24 14:48       ` Rob Herring
2015-08-24 14:48         ` Rob Herring
2015-08-24 14:48         ` Rob Herring
2015-08-24 16:16         ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-24 16:16           ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-24 16:16           ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-25  1:21         ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  1:21           ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  1:21           ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  9:12         ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25  9:12           ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25  9:12           ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25  9:29           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-25  9:29             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-25  9:29             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-25 10:40             ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 10:40               ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 10:40               ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 10:52               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-25 10:52                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-25 10:52                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-25  9:41           ` Yakir Yang [this message]
2015-08-25  9:41             ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25 10:06             ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 10:06               ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 10:06               ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 14:02               ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25 14:02                 ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  9:15     ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25  9:15       ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25  9:15       ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25  9:37       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  9:37         ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25 13:27       ` Rob Herring
2015-08-25 13:27         ` Rob Herring
2015-08-25 13:27         ` Rob Herring
2015-08-25 13:48         ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25 14:16           ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 14:16             ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 14:16             ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 14:23             ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25 14:23               ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25  9:58   ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25  9:58     ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25  9:58     ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 14:03     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25 14:03       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-25 14:21       ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 14:21         ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 14:21         ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-25 15:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-25 15:57           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-25 15:57           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-19 14:50 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] drm: rockchip/dp: add rockchip platform dp driver Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:50   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] phy: Add driver for rockchip Display Port PHY Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  4:40   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-08-20  4:40     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-08-20  4:40     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-08-20  6:56     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  7:01       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] drm: bridge/analogix_dp: add platform device type support Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] drm: bridge: analogix_dp: add some rk3288 special registers setting Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] drm: bridge: analogix_dp: try force hpd after plug in lookup failed Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:51   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:52 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] drm: bridge/analogix_dp: expand the delay time for hpd detect Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:52   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:52   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  6:11   ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  6:11     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  6:11     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  8:02     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  8:02       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  8:02       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:52 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] drm: bridge/analogix_dp: move hpd detect to connector detect function Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:52   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  7:49   ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  7:49     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  7:49     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  8:18     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  8:18       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  8:18       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:52 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] drm: bridge/analogix_dp: add edid modes parse in get_modes method Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 14:52   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-19 23:54 ` [PATCH v3 0/14] Add Analogix Core Display Port Driver Dave Airlie
2015-08-19 23:54   ` Dave Airlie
2015-08-19 23:54   ` Dave Airlie
2015-08-20  1:02   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  1:02     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  1:02     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  4:29 ` Archit Taneja
2015-08-20  4:29   ` Archit Taneja
2015-08-20  4:29   ` Archit Taneja
2015-08-20  5:54   ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  5:54     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  5:54     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  6:23     ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  6:23       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  6:23       ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  6:55       ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  6:55         ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  6:55         ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-20  8:03         ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  8:03           ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-20  8:03           ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-21  8:20 ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-21  8:20   ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-21  8:20   ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-21 10:01   ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-21 11:24     ` Jingoo Han
2015-08-21 13:16       ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-21 13:16         ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-21 13:16         ` Thierry Reding
2015-08-22 10:13         ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-30 12:16         ` Romain Perier
2015-08-30 12:16           ` Romain Perier
2015-08-30 12:16           ` Romain Perier
2015-08-31  2:40           ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-31  2:40             ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-31  2:40             ` Yakir Yang
2015-08-22  9:42       ` Yakir Yang

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