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From: Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
To: "nico@fluxnic.net" <nico@fluxnic.net>
Cc: "masahiroy@kernel.org" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] Kconfig: Introduce "uses" keyword
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:30:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <62a51b2e5425a3cca4f7a66e2795b957f237b2da.camel@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YSQ.7.76.2004210951160.2671@knanqh.ubzr>

On Tue, 2020-04-21 at 09:58 -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020, Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> 
> > I wonder how many of those 8889 cases wanted a weak dependency but
> > couldn't figure out how to do it ? 
> > 
> > Users of depends on FOO || !FOO
> > 
> > $ git ls-files | grep Kconfig | xargs grep -E \
> >   "depends\s+on\s+([A-Za-z0-9_]+)\s*\|\|\s*(\!\s*\1|\1\s*=\s*n)" \
> >  | wc -l
> > 
> > 156
> > 
> > a new keyword is required :) .. 
> > 
> > 
> > > In another mail I suggested
> > > 
> > > 	optionally depends on FOO
> > > 
> > > might be a better alternative than "uses".
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > how about just:
> >       optional FOO
> > 
> > It is clear and easy to document .. 
> 
> I don't dispute your argument for having a new keyword. But the most 
> difficult part as Arnd said is to find it. You cannot pretend that 

kconfig-language.rst  ?

> "optional FOO" is clear when it actually imposes a restriction when 
> FOO=m. Try to justify to people why they cannot select y because of
> this 
> "optional" thing.
> 

Then let's use "uses" it is more assertive. Documentation will cover
any vague anything about it .. 

> 
> Nicolas

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-21 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-17  1:11 [RFC PATCH 1/2] Kconfig: Introduce "uses" keyword Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-17  1:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] net/mlx5: Kconfig: Use "uses" instead of "imply" Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-17  8:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17  6:23 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Kconfig: Introduce "uses" keyword Jani Nikula
2020-04-17  6:23   ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-17 12:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-17 14:01     ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-17 14:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-17 10:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 11:35   ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-17 11:35     ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-18 19:00 ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-04-18 19:11   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-18 20:07     ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-04-20  8:43       ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-20 18:42         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-04-21  4:24         ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-21  4:24           ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-21 13:58           ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-21 13:58             ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-21 16:30             ` Saeed Mahameed [this message]
2020-04-21 16:30               ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-21 18:23               ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-21 18:23                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-22  8:51                 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-22  8:51                   ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-22 21:13                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-22 21:13                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-22 22:37                     ` Randy Dunlap
2020-04-22 22:37                       ` Randy Dunlap
2020-04-23 15:01                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:01                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 15:05                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 15:11                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:11                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:16                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 15:16                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 15:28                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-23 15:28                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-23 15:33                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:33                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 18:30                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 18:30                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 18:52                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 18:52                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-20 13:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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