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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
Cc: "masahiroy@kernel.org" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] Kconfig: Introduce "uses" keyword
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 09:58:13 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YSQ.7.76.2004210951160.2671@knanqh.ubzr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45b9efec57b2e250e8e39b3b203eb8cee10cb6e8.camel@mellanox.com>

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020, Saeed Mahameed wrote:

> I wonder how many of those 8889 cases wanted a weak dependency but
> couldn't figure out how to do it ? 
> 
> Users of depends on FOO || !FOO
> 
> $ git ls-files | grep Kconfig | xargs grep -E \
>   "depends\s+on\s+([A-Za-z0-9_]+)\s*\|\|\s*(\!\s*\1|\1\s*=\s*n)" \
>  | wc -l
> 
> 156
> 
> a new keyword is required :) .. 
> 
> 
> > In another mail I suggested
> > 
> > 	optionally depends on FOO
> > 
> > might be a better alternative than "uses".
> > 
> > 
> 
> how about just:
>       optional FOO
> 
> It is clear and easy to document .. 

I don't dispute your argument for having a new keyword. But the most 
difficult part as Arnd said is to find it. You cannot pretend that 
"optional FOO" is clear when it actually imposes a restriction when 
FOO=m. Try to justify to people why they cannot select y because of this 
"optional" thing.


Nicolas

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-21 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-17  1:11 [RFC PATCH 1/2] Kconfig: Introduce "uses" keyword Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-17  1:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] net/mlx5: Kconfig: Use "uses" instead of "imply" Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-17  8:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17  6:23 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Kconfig: Introduce "uses" keyword Jani Nikula
2020-04-17  6:23   ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-17 12:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-17 14:01     ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-17 14:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-17 10:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 11:35   ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-17 11:35     ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-18 19:00 ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-04-18 19:11   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-18 20:07     ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-04-20  8:43       ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-20 18:42         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-04-21  4:24         ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-21  4:24           ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-21 13:58           ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2020-04-21 13:58             ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-21 16:30             ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-21 16:30               ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-21 18:23               ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-21 18:23                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-22  8:51                 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-22  8:51                   ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-22 21:13                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-22 21:13                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-22 22:37                     ` Randy Dunlap
2020-04-22 22:37                       ` Randy Dunlap
2020-04-23 15:01                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:01                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 15:05                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 15:11                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:11                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:16                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 15:16                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 15:28                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-23 15:28                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-23 15:33                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 15:33                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 18:30                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 18:30                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-23 18:52                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-23 18:52                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-20 13:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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