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From: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	mtosatti@redhat.com,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 11:57:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <939A6255-306C-431C-8799-0D56A30A3BD5@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a567de11-a106-fd6d-7998-1a18ba17eaaa@redhat.com>



> On 8 Nov 2018, at 11:50, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 08/11/2018 01:45, Jim Mattson wrote:
>> I have no attachments to the current design. I had used a data[] blob,
>> because I didn't think userspace would have any need to know what was
>> in there. However, I am now seeing the error of my ways. For example,
>> the userspace instruction emulator needs to know the contents of the
>> vmcs12 to emulate instructions when in guest mode.
> 
> Yeah, we're probably going to have to document the KVM vmcs12 structure,
> possibly moving it to uapi.  But that's a different thing from
> save/restore state, which can use the 4K or 8K data[] blob.
> 
> Paolo

But regardless of if we document vmcs12 or not, the current blob we have today
should be separated to well-defined blobs/structs (cached_vmcs12 and cached_shadow_vmcs12)
and each blob should have a relevant flag that specifies it is valid (saved by kernel or requested to be restored by userspace).
Additional future nested-state should be added as additional well-defined blobs/structs with appropriate flags.

Then, in QEMU, each such well-defined blob/struct should have it’s own subsection with a relevant .needed() method.
This will allow us to preserve required backwards compatibility.

Agreed?

-Liran

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 11:57:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <939A6255-306C-431C-8799-0D56A30A3BD5@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a567de11-a106-fd6d-7998-1a18ba17eaaa@redhat.com>



> On 8 Nov 2018, at 11:50, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 08/11/2018 01:45, Jim Mattson wrote:
>> I have no attachments to the current design. I had used a data[] blob,
>> because I didn't think userspace would have any need to know what was
>> in there. However, I am now seeing the error of my ways. For example,
>> the userspace instruction emulator needs to know the contents of the
>> vmcs12 to emulate instructions when in guest mode.
> 
> Yeah, we're probably going to have to document the KVM vmcs12 structure,
> possibly moving it to uapi.  But that's a different thing from
> save/restore state, which can use the 4K or 8K data[] blob.
> 
> Paolo

But regardless of if we document vmcs12 or not, the current blob we have today
should be separated to well-defined blobs/structs (cached_vmcs12 and cached_shadow_vmcs12)
and each blob should have a relevant flag that specifies it is valid (saved by kernel or requested to be restored by userspace).
Additional future nested-state should be added as additional well-defined blobs/structs with appropriate flags.

Then, in QEMU, each such well-defined blob/struct should have it’s own subsection with a relevant .needed() method.
This will allow us to preserve required backwards compatibility.

Agreed?

-Liran

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-08  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-16 12:46 [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state Liran Alon
2018-09-16 12:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-09-16 12:46 ` [QEMU PATCH v2 1/2] i386: Compile CPUX86State xsave_buf only when support KVM or HVF Liran Alon
2018-09-16 12:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-09-16 12:46 ` [QEMU PATCH v2 2/2] KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state Liran Alon
2018-09-16 12:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-10-08 17:21 ` [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: " Liran Alon
2018-10-08 17:21   ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-10-15 18:10   ` Liran Alon
2018-10-15 18:10     ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-10-31  1:03     ` Liran Alon
2018-10-31  1:03       ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-10-31 18:17       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-31 18:17         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-31 18:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-31 18:19           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-31 18:50           ` Liran Alon
2018-10-31 18:50             ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-10-31 18:59             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-31 18:59               ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-10-31 23:17               ` Liran Alon
2018-10-31 23:17                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-01 13:10                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 13:10                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 15:23                   ` Liran Alon
2018-11-01 15:23                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-01 15:56                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 15:56                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 16:45                       ` Jim Mattson via Qemu-devel
2018-11-01 16:45                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim Mattson
2018-11-02  3:46                         ` Liran Alon
2018-11-02  3:46                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-02  9:40                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-02  9:40                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-02 12:35                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-02 12:35                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-02 12:40                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-02 12:40                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-04 22:12                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-04 22:12                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-02 12:59                             ` Liran Alon
2018-11-02 12:59                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-02 16:44                               ` Jim Mattson via Qemu-devel
2018-11-02 16:44                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim Mattson
2018-11-02 16:58                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-02 16:58                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-02 17:01                                   ` Jim Mattson via Qemu-devel
2018-11-02 17:01                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim Mattson
2018-11-02 16:54                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-02 16:54                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-02 16:58                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-02 16:58                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-04 22:19                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-04 22:19                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-12 16:18                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-12 16:18                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-12 16:50                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-12 16:50                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-12 16:53                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-12 16:53                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-12 16:54                                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-12 16:54                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-11-13  0:00                                       ` Liran Alon
2018-11-13  0:00                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-13  0:07                                         ` Jim Mattson via Qemu-devel
2018-11-13  0:07                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim Mattson
2018-11-13  0:09                                           ` Liran Alon
2018-11-13  0:09                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-12 23:58                                     ` Liran Alon
2018-11-12 23:58                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-02 16:39                           ` Jim Mattson via Qemu-devel
2018-11-02 16:39                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim Mattson
2018-11-03  2:02                             ` Liran Alon
2018-11-03  2:02                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-08  0:13                               ` Liran Alon
2018-11-08  0:13                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-08  0:45                                 ` Jim Mattson via Qemu-devel
2018-11-08  0:45                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim Mattson
2018-11-08  9:50                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08  9:50                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08  9:57                                     ` Liran Alon [this message]
2018-11-08  9:57                                       ` Liran Alon
2018-11-08 17:02                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 17:02                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 18:41                                         ` Liran Alon
2018-11-08 18:41                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-08 20:34                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-08 20:34                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-11-12 14:51                                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-12 14:51                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 19:03                       ` Liran Alon
2018-11-01 19:03                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Liran Alon
2018-11-01 19:07                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 19:07                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-11-01 19:41                           ` Jim Mattson via Qemu-devel
2018-11-01 19:41                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim Mattson

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