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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rfc 1/3] virtio-net: support transmit hash report
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 11:47:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+FuTSdYLxV2O2WiD3D0cy2vaVbiECWheW0j7OGKKgV84wkScA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201228112657-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:22:31AM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > From: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> >
> > Virtio-net supports sharing the flow hash from host to guest on rx.
> > Do the same on transmit, to allow the host to infer connection state
> > for more robust routing and telemetry.
> >
> > Linux derives ipv6 flowlabel and ECMP multipath from sk->sk_txhash,
> > and updates these fields on error with sk_rethink_txhash. This feature
> > allows the host to make similar decisions.
> >
> > Besides the raw hash, optionally also convey connection state for
> > this hash. Specifically, the hash rotates on transmit timeout. To
> > avoid having to keep a stateful table in the host to detect flow
> > changes, explicitly notify when a hash changed due to timeout.
>
> I don't actually see code using VIRTIO_NET_HASH_STATE_TIMEOUT_BIT
> in this series. Want to split out that part to a separate patch?

Will do.

I wanted to make it clear that these bits must be reserved (i.e.,
zero) until a later patch specifies them.

The timeout notification feature requires additional plumbing between
the TCP protocol stack and device driver, probably an skb bit. I'd
like to leave that as follow-up for now.

Thanks for the fast feedback!

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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH rfc 1/3] virtio-net: support transmit hash report
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 11:47:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+FuTSdYLxV2O2WiD3D0cy2vaVbiECWheW0j7OGKKgV84wkScA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201228112657-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:22:31AM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > From: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> >
> > Virtio-net supports sharing the flow hash from host to guest on rx.
> > Do the same on transmit, to allow the host to infer connection state
> > for more robust routing and telemetry.
> >
> > Linux derives ipv6 flowlabel and ECMP multipath from sk->sk_txhash,
> > and updates these fields on error with sk_rethink_txhash. This feature
> > allows the host to make similar decisions.
> >
> > Besides the raw hash, optionally also convey connection state for
> > this hash. Specifically, the hash rotates on transmit timeout. To
> > avoid having to keep a stateful table in the host to detect flow
> > changes, explicitly notify when a hash changed due to timeout.
>
> I don't actually see code using VIRTIO_NET_HASH_STATE_TIMEOUT_BIT
> in this series. Want to split out that part to a separate patch?

Will do.

I wanted to make it clear that these bits must be reserved (i.e.,
zero) until a later patch specifies them.

The timeout notification feature requires additional plumbing between
the TCP protocol stack and device driver, probably an skb bit. I'd
like to leave that as follow-up for now.

Thanks for the fast feedback!
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-28 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-28 16:22 [PATCH rfc 0/3] virtio-net: add tx-hash, rx-tstamp and tx-tstamp Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` [PATCH rfc 1/3] virtio-net: support transmit hash report Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22   ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 16:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 16:47     ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2020-12-28 16:47       ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 17:22       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 17:22         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29  1:19         ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29  1:19           ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 21:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 21:36     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29  1:23     ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29  1:23       ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` [PATCH rfc 2/3] virtio-net: support receive timestamp Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22   ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 17:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 17:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 19:30     ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 19:30       ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 21:32       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 21:32         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29  1:05         ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29  1:05           ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29  9:17           ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29  9:17             ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29 14:20             ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29 14:20               ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-30  8:38               ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30  8:38                 ` Jason Wang
2020-12-28 22:59   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-29  0:57     ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29  0:57       ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-30  8:44       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30  8:44         ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30 12:30       ` Richard Cochran
2021-02-02 13:05   ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 13:05     ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 13:05     ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 14:08   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 14:08     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 22:17     ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-02 22:17       ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-02 23:02       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 23:02         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 23:43         ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-02 23:43           ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` [PATCH rfc 3/3] virtio-net: support transmit timestamp Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22   ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-30 12:38   ` Richard Cochran
2020-12-30 15:25     ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-30 15:25       ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-02 13:47   ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 13:47     ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 13:47     ` kernel test robot
2020-12-28 17:29 ` [PATCH rfc 0/3] virtio-net: add tx-hash, rx-tstamp and tx-tstamp Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 17:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 19:51   ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 19:51     ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 21:38     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 21:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29  1:14       ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29  1:14         ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-01-06 20:32         ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-01-06 20:32           ` Willem de Bruijn

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