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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	virtio-fs@redhat.com, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/19] dax: remove block device dependencies
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 06:22:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jZE35sbDo6J4ihioEUFTuekJ3_h0=2Ra4PY+xn2xn1cQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200107125159.GA15745@infradead.org>

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:52 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:10:14PM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > Agree. In retrospect it was my laziness in the dax-device
> > > implementation to expect the block-device to be available.
> > >
> > > It looks like fs_dax_get_by_bdev() is an intercept point where a
> > > dax_device could be dynamically created to represent the subset range
> > > indicated by the block-device partition. That would open up more
> > > cleanup opportunities.
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > After a long time I got time to look at it again. Want to work on this
> > cleanup so that I can make progress with virtiofs DAX paches.
> >
> > I am not sure I understand the requirements fully. I see that right now
> > dax_device is created per device and all block partitions refer to it. If
> > we want to create one dax_device per partition, then it looks like this
> > will be structured more along the lines how block layer handles disk and
> > partitions. (One gendisk for disk and block_devices for partitions,
> > including partition 0). That probably means state belong to whole device
> > will be in common structure say dax_device_common, and per partition state
> > will be in dax_device and dax_device can carry a pointer to
> > dax_device_common.
> >
> > I am also not sure what does it mean to partition dax devices. How will
> > partitions be exported to user space.
>
> Dan, last time we talked you agreed that partitioned dax devices are
> rather pointless IIRC.  Should we just deprecate partitions on DAX
> devices and then remove them after a cycle or two?

That does seem a better plan than trying to force partition support
where it is not needed.
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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	virtio-fs@redhat.com, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/19] dax: remove block device dependencies
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 06:22:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jZE35sbDo6J4ihioEUFTuekJ3_h0=2Ra4PY+xn2xn1cQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200107125159.GA15745@infradead.org>

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:52 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:10:14PM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > Agree. In retrospect it was my laziness in the dax-device
> > > implementation to expect the block-device to be available.
> > >
> > > It looks like fs_dax_get_by_bdev() is an intercept point where a
> > > dax_device could be dynamically created to represent the subset range
> > > indicated by the block-device partition. That would open up more
> > > cleanup opportunities.
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > After a long time I got time to look at it again. Want to work on this
> > cleanup so that I can make progress with virtiofs DAX paches.
> >
> > I am not sure I understand the requirements fully. I see that right now
> > dax_device is created per device and all block partitions refer to it. If
> > we want to create one dax_device per partition, then it looks like this
> > will be structured more along the lines how block layer handles disk and
> > partitions. (One gendisk for disk and block_devices for partitions,
> > including partition 0). That probably means state belong to whole device
> > will be in common structure say dax_device_common, and per partition state
> > will be in dax_device and dax_device can carry a pointer to
> > dax_device_common.
> >
> > I am also not sure what does it mean to partition dax devices. How will
> > partitions be exported to user space.
>
> Dan, last time we talked you agreed that partitioned dax devices are
> rather pointless IIRC.  Should we just deprecate partitions on DAX
> devices and then remove them after a cycle or two?

That does seem a better plan than trying to force partition support
where it is not needed.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtio-fs@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH 01/19] dax: remove block device dependencies
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 06:22:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jZE35sbDo6J4ihioEUFTuekJ3_h0=2Ra4PY+xn2xn1cQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200107125159.GA15745@infradead.org>

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:52 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:10:14PM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > Agree. In retrospect it was my laziness in the dax-device
> > > implementation to expect the block-device to be available.
> > >
> > > It looks like fs_dax_get_by_bdev() is an intercept point where a
> > > dax_device could be dynamically created to represent the subset range
> > > indicated by the block-device partition. That would open up more
> > > cleanup opportunities.
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > After a long time I got time to look at it again. Want to work on this
> > cleanup so that I can make progress with virtiofs DAX paches.
> >
> > I am not sure I understand the requirements fully. I see that right now
> > dax_device is created per device and all block partitions refer to it. If
> > we want to create one dax_device per partition, then it looks like this
> > will be structured more along the lines how block layer handles disk and
> > partitions. (One gendisk for disk and block_devices for partitions,
> > including partition 0). That probably means state belong to whole device
> > will be in common structure say dax_device_common, and per partition state
> > will be in dax_device and dax_device can carry a pointer to
> > dax_device_common.
> >
> > I am also not sure what does it mean to partition dax devices. How will
> > partitions be exported to user space.
>
> Dan, last time we talked you agreed that partitioned dax devices are
> rather pointless IIRC.  Should we just deprecate partitions on DAX
> devices and then remove them after a cycle or two?

That does seem a better plan than trying to force partition support
where it is not needed.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-07 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 231+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-21 17:57 [PATCH v3 00/19][RFC] virtio-fs: Enable DAX support Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 01/19] dax: remove block device dependencies Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 11:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-26 11:51     ` [Virtio-fs] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-26 11:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-27 16:38     ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27 16:38       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27 16:38       ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-28  6:58       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28  6:58         ` [Virtio-fs] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28  6:58         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 17:58         ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-28 17:58           ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-28 17:58           ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-28 22:53           ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-28 22:53             ` [Virtio-fs] " Dave Chinner
2019-08-28 22:53             ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-29  0:04             ` Dan Williams
2019-08-29  0:04               ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2019-08-29  0:04               ` Dan Williams
2019-08-29  9:32               ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-29  9:32                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-29  9:32                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-12-16 18:10               ` Vivek Goyal
2019-12-16 18:10                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-12-16 18:10                 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-07 12:51                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-07 12:51                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-07 12:51                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-07 14:22                   ` Dan Williams [this message]
2020-01-07 14:22                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-07 14:22                     ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 17:07                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-07 17:07                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-07 17:07                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-07 17:29                       ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 17:29                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-07 17:29                         ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 18:01                         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-07 18:01                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-07 18:01                           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-07 18:07                           ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 18:07                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-07 18:07                             ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 18:33                             ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-07 18:33                               ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-07 18:33                               ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-07 18:49                               ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 18:49                                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-07 18:49                                 ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 19:02                                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-07 19:02                                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-07 19:02                                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-01-07 19:46                                   ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 19:46                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-07 19:46                                     ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 23:38                                     ` Dan Williams
2020-01-07 23:38                                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-07 23:38                                       ` Dan Williams
2020-01-09 11:24                                 ` Jan Kara
2020-01-09 11:24                                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jan Kara
2020-01-09 11:24                                   ` Jan Kara
2020-01-09 20:03                                   ` Dan Williams
2020-01-09 20:03                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-09 20:03                                     ` Dan Williams
2020-01-10 12:36                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-10 12:36                                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-10 12:36                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-14 20:31                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-14 20:31                                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-14 20:31                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-14 20:39                                       ` Dan Williams
2020-01-14 20:39                                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-14 20:39                                         ` Dan Williams
2020-01-14 21:28                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-14 21:28                                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-14 21:28                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-14 22:23                                           ` Dan Williams
2020-01-14 22:23                                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-14 22:23                                             ` Dan Williams
2020-01-15 19:56                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-15 19:56                                               ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-15 19:56                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-15 20:17                                               ` Dan Williams
2020-01-15 20:17                                                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-15 20:17                                                 ` Dan Williams
2020-01-15 21:08                                                 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-01-15 21:08                                                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Jeff Moyer
2020-01-15 21:08                                                   ` Jeff Moyer
2020-01-16 18:09                                                   ` Dan Williams
2020-01-16 18:09                                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-16 18:09                                                     ` Dan Williams
2020-01-16 18:39                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-16 18:39                                                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-16 18:39                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-16 19:09                                                       ` Dan Williams
2020-01-16 19:09                                                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-16 19:09                                                         ` Dan Williams
2020-01-16 19:23                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-16 19:23                                                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-16 19:23                                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-11 17:33                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-11 17:33                                                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-02-11 17:33                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-15  9:03                                           ` Jan Kara
2020-01-15  9:03                                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Jan Kara
2020-01-15  9:03                                             ` Jan Kara
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 02/19] dax: Pass dax_dev to dax_writeback_mapping_range() Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 11:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-26 11:53     ` [Virtio-fs] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-26 11:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-26 20:33     ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 20:33       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 20:33       ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 20:58       ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 20:58         ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 20:58         ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 21:33         ` Dan Williams
2019-08-26 21:33           ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2019-08-26 21:33           ` Dan Williams
2019-08-28  6:58         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28  6:58           ` [Virtio-fs] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28  6:58           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-03 14:12         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-03 14:12           ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-03 14:12           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-03 18:12           ` Dan Williams
2020-01-03 18:12             ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-03 18:12             ` Dan Williams
2020-01-03 18:18             ` Dan Williams
2020-01-03 18:18               ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-03 18:18               ` Dan Williams
2020-01-03 18:33               ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-03 18:33                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-03 18:33                 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-03 19:30                 ` Dan Williams
2020-01-03 19:30                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Dan Williams
2020-01-03 19:30                   ` Dan Williams
2020-01-03 18:43               ` Vivek Goyal
2020-01-03 18:43                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2020-01-03 18:43                 ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27 13:45       ` Jan Kara
2019-08-27 13:45         ` [Virtio-fs] " Jan Kara
2019-08-27 13:45         ` Jan Kara
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 03/19] virtio: Add get_shm_region method Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 04/19] virtio: Implement get_shm_region for PCI transport Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26  1:43   ` [Virtio-fs] " piaojun
2019-08-26  1:43     ` piaojun
2019-08-26  1:43     ` piaojun
2019-08-26 13:06     ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 13:06       ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-26 13:06       ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27  9:41       ` piaojun
2019-08-27  9:41         ` piaojun
2019-08-27  9:41         ` piaojun
2019-08-27  8:34   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27  8:34     ` [Virtio-fs] " Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27  8:34     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27  8:46     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27  8:46       ` [Virtio-fs] " Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27  8:46       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 11:53     ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27 11:53       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27 11:53       ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 05/19] virtio: Implement get_shm_region for MMIO transport Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27  8:39   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27  8:39     ` [Virtio-fs] " Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27  8:39     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-27 11:54     ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27 11:54       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-27 11:54       ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 06/19] fuse, dax: add fuse_conn->dax_dev field Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 07/19] virtio_fs, dax: Set up virtio_fs dax_device Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 08/19] fuse: Keep a list of free dax memory ranges Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 09/19] fuse: implement FUSE_INIT map_alignment field Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 10/19] fuse: Introduce setupmapping/removemapping commands Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 11/19] fuse, dax: Implement dax read/write operations Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 19:49   ` Liu Bo
2019-08-21 19:49     ` [Virtio-fs] " Liu Bo
2019-08-21 19:49     ` Liu Bo
2019-08-22 12:59     ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-22 12:59       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-22 12:59       ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 12/19] fuse, dax: add DAX mmap support Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 13/19] fuse: Define dax address space operations Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 14/19] fuse, dax: Take ->i_mmap_sem lock during dax page fault Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 15/19] fuse: Maintain a list of busy elements Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 16/19] dax: Create a range version of dax_layout_busy_page() Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 17/19] fuse: Add logic to free up a memory range Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 18/19] fuse: Release file in process context Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 19/19] fuse: Take inode lock for dax inode truncation Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vivek Goyal
2019-08-21 17:57   ` Vivek Goyal

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