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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] virtio core DMA API conversion
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 06:37:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1447184258.31884.91.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151110142633-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 14:43 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> But not virtio-pci I think - that's broken for that usecase since we use
> weaker barriers than required for real IO, as these have measureable
> overhead.  We could have a feature "is a real PCI device",
> that's completely reasonable.

Do we use weaker barriers on the Linux driver side ? I didn't think so
... 

Cheers,
Ben.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] virtio core DMA API conversion
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 06:37:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1447184258.31884.91.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151110142633-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 14:43 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> But not virtio-pci I think - that's broken for that usecase since we use
> weaker barriers than required for real IO, as these have measureable
> overhead.  We could have a feature "is a real PCI device",
> that's completely reasonable.

Do we use weaker barriers on the Linux driver side ? I didn't think so
... 

Cheers,
Ben.

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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] virtio core DMA API conversion
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:37:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1447184258.31884.91.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151110142633-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 14:43 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> But not virtio-pci I think - that's broken for that usecase since we use
> weaker barriers than required for real IO, as these have measureable
> overhead.  We could have a feature "is a real PCI device",
> that's completely reasonable.

Do we use weaker barriers on the Linux driver side ? I didn't think so
... 

Cheers,
Ben.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-10 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-30  1:09 [PATCH v4 0/6] virtio core DMA API conversion Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] virtio-net: Stop doing DMA from the stack Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30 13:55   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-30 13:55     ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-31  5:02     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-31  5:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-31  5:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30 13:55   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-30  1:09 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] virtio_ring: Support DMA APIs Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30 12:01   ` Cornelia Huck
2015-10-30 12:01     ` Cornelia Huck
2015-10-30 12:01     ` Cornelia Huck
2015-10-30 12:05     ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-30 12:05       ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-30 12:05       ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-30 18:51       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30 18:51       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30 18:51         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] virtio_pci: Use the DMA API Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] virtio: Add improved queue allocation API Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] virtio_mmio: Use the DMA API Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] virtio_pci: " Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:17 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] virtio core DMA API conversion Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:17   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  1:17   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-30  9:57 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-30  9:57   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-30  9:57 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-11-09 12:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-09 12:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-09 12:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-09 12:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-09 12:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-09 12:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-09 22:58   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-09 22:58     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-09 22:58     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  0:46     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  0:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  0:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  2:04       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  2:04         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  2:04         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  2:18         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  2:18         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  2:18           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  5:26           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  5:26             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  5:26             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  5:33             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  5:33             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  5:33               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  5:28           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  5:28             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  5:28             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  5:35             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  5:35             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10  5:35               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10 10:37               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 10:37                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 10:37                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 12:43                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-10 12:43                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-10 12:43                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-10 19:37                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2015-11-10 19:37                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 19:37                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 12:43                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-10 18:54                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10 18:54                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10 18:54                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10 22:27                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 22:27                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 22:27                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 23:44                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10 23:44                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-10 23:44                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-11  0:44                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-11  0:44                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-11  0:44                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-11  4:46                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-11  4:46                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-11  4:46                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-11  5:08                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-11  5:08                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-11  5:08                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10  7:28           ` Jan Kiszka
2015-11-10  7:28             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-11-10  7:28             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-11-10  7:28             ` Jan Kiszka
2015-11-10  9:45         ` Knut Omang
2015-11-10  9:45         ` Knut Omang
2015-11-10  9:45           ` Knut Omang
2015-11-10 10:26           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 10:26             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 10:26             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 10:27         ` Joerg Roedel
2015-11-10 10:27           ` Joerg Roedel
2015-11-10 10:27           ` Joerg Roedel
2015-11-10 19:36           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 19:36             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-10 19:36             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2015-10-30  1:09 Andy Lutomirski

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