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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@sigmadesigns.com>,
	JB <jb_lescher@sigmadesigns.com>, Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state()
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 01:24:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1578637.1XJQpJurXn@aspire.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a5ef0ae-16f3-5a61-ae4e-083664cb30c0@gmail.com>

On Saturday, July 15, 2017 10:20:27 AM Florian Fainelli wrote:
> 
> On 07/15/2017 09:46 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> >>>> I had an idea of using an enum type encompassing all of the power states
> >>>> defined for various platforms and serving both as a registry (to ensure the
> >>>> uniqueness of the values assigned to the states) and a common ground
> >>>> between platforms and drivers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Something like:
> >>>>
> >>>> enum platform_target_state {
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_UNKNOWN = -1,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_WORKING = 0,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S1,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S2,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S3,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_MY_BOARD_1_GATE_CLOCKS,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_MY_BOARD_1_GATE_POWER,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_ANOTHER_BOARD_DO_CRAZY_STUFF,
> >>>> 	...
> >>>> };
> >>>>
> >>>> and define ->target_state to return a value of this type.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then, if a driver sees one of these and recognizes that value, it should
> >>>> know exactly what to do.
> >>>
> >>> Remind me why this is good idea?
> >>
> >> Because there are drivers that need to do specific things during
> >> suspend on a specific board when it goes into a specific state as a
> >> whole.
> > 
> > We have seen driver that cares about voltage to his device being
> > lost. That's reasonable.
> > 
> > Inquiring what the platform target state is... is not.
> > 
> >>> If board wants to know if certain regulator stays online during
> >>> suspend, it should invent an API for _that_.
> >>
> >> Ideally, yes.  However, that may be problematic for multiplatform kernels,
> >> because they would need to have all of those APIs built in and the driver
> >> code to figure out which API to use would be rather nasty.
> > 
> > Lets do it the right way. Big enum is wrong.
> 
> The enum offers the advantage of centralizing how many different states
> exist for all the platforms we know about in the kernel, it's easy to
> define common values for platforms that have the same semantics, just
> like it's simple to add new values for platform specific details.

Well, you seem to be liking this, so why don't you just implement it?

Thanks,
Rafael

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From: rjw@rjwysocki.net (Rafael J. Wysocki)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 1/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state()
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 01:24:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1578637.1XJQpJurXn@aspire.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a5ef0ae-16f3-5a61-ae4e-083664cb30c0@gmail.com>

On Saturday, July 15, 2017 10:20:27 AM Florian Fainelli wrote:
> 
> On 07/15/2017 09:46 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> >>>> I had an idea of using an enum type encompassing all of the power states
> >>>> defined for various platforms and serving both as a registry (to ensure the
> >>>> uniqueness of the values assigned to the states) and a common ground
> >>>> between platforms and drivers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Something like:
> >>>>
> >>>> enum platform_target_state {
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_UNKNOWN = -1,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_WORKING = 0,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S1,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S2,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_ACPI_S3,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_MY_BOARD_1_GATE_CLOCKS,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_MY_BOARD_1_GATE_POWER,
> >>>> 	PLATFORM_STATE_ANOTHER_BOARD_DO_CRAZY_STUFF,
> >>>> 	...
> >>>> };
> >>>>
> >>>> and define ->target_state to return a value of this type.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then, if a driver sees one of these and recognizes that value, it should
> >>>> know exactly what to do.
> >>>
> >>> Remind me why this is good idea?
> >>
> >> Because there are drivers that need to do specific things during
> >> suspend on a specific board when it goes into a specific state as a
> >> whole.
> > 
> > We have seen driver that cares about voltage to his device being
> > lost. That's reasonable.
> > 
> > Inquiring what the platform target state is... is not.
> > 
> >>> If board wants to know if certain regulator stays online during
> >>> suspend, it should invent an API for _that_.
> >>
> >> Ideally, yes.  However, that may be problematic for multiplatform kernels,
> >> because they would need to have all of those APIs built in and the driver
> >> code to figure out which API to use would be rather nasty.
> > 
> > Lets do it the right way. Big enum is wrong.
> 
> The enum offers the advantage of centralizing how many different states
> exist for all the platforms we know about in the kernel, it's easy to
> define common values for platforms that have the same semantics, just
> like it's simple to add new values for platform specific details.

Well, you seem to be liking this, so why don't you just implement it?

Thanks,
Rafael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-15 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-09 15:20 Drivers taking different actions depending on sleep state Mason
2017-06-09 15:20 ` Mason
2017-06-09 16:27 ` Mason
2017-06-09 16:27   ` Mason
2017-06-09 21:30   ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-09 21:30     ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-10  9:16     ` Mason
2017-06-10  9:16       ` Mason
2017-06-09 22:05 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-09 22:05   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-09 22:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-09 22:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 21:16   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 21:16     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 21:59     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 21:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 22:48       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 22:48         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 22:57         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 22:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 23:55           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 23:55             ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22  0:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22  0:03               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 15:18               ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22 15:18                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22 16:09                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 16:09                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22  8:51             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-22  8:51               ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-22 16:00               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 16:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-23  1:08               ` [RFC 0/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` [RFC 1/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-29 23:00                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-29 23:00                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-12 18:08                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-12 18:08                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-14 22:16                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-14 22:16                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15  6:28                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15  6:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 12:17                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 12:17                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 16:46                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 16:46                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 17:20                               ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 17:20                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 18:33                                 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-15 18:33                                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-06  3:18                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:18                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 13:41                                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 13:41                                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 15:35                                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:35                                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 23:24                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2017-07-15 23:24                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:34                                   ` Mason
2017-07-15 23:34                                     ` Mason
2017-07-15 23:38                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:38                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 10:22                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:22                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 13:38                                           ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 13:38                                             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 18:24                                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 18:24                                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 15:41                                           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:41                                             ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 23:29                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:29                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-06  3:17                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:17                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 10:28                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:28                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 18:22                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 18:22                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` [RFC 2/2] soc: bcm: brcmstb: PM: Implement target_state callback Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-29 23:04                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-29 23:04                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                 ` [PATCH 0/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` [PATCH 1/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-06  3:18                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:18                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 15:41                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:41                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 10:30                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:30                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` [PATCH 2/2] soc: bcm: brcmstb: PM: Implement target_state callback Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:06                   ` [PATCH v2] PM / suspend: Add suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:06                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:16                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 20:16                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 21:03                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 21:03                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 21:21                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 21:21                           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-20  8:03                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-20  8:03                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 22:10                   ` [PATCH v3] PM / suspend: Export pm_suspend_target_state Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 22:10                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 23:24                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 23:24                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-18  0:19                     ` [PATCH v4] " Florian Fainelli
2017-07-18  0:19                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-24 20:55                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-24 20:55                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-13 12:03               ` Drivers taking different actions depending on sleep state Pavel Machek
2017-07-13 12:03                 ` Pavel Machek

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