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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@sigmadesigns.com>,
	JB <jb_lescher@sigmadesigns.com>, Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state()
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:22:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170716182235.GB14461@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5290346.YItt1Jp12B@aspire.rjw.lan>

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Hi!

> > > So why exactly isn't it reasonable?
> > > 
> > > Please use technical arguments.  Saying that something is wrong without
> > > explaining the problem you see with it isn't particulatly useful in technical
> > > discussions.
> > 
> > Deep in your heart, you should know that having enum listing all the platforms linux
> > runs on is a very bad idea.
> 
> Even so, if I'm unable to explain to people why this is a bad idea in technical
> terms, that doesn't mean too much.

I could say something O(#drivers * #platforms) vs. O(#drivers +
#platforms) lines of code -- but I thought it was obvious...?

> > Anyway, there are better solutions, regulator framework already knows if given rail
> > will be powered off or not, and their driver already knows if they are going
> > suspend/standby. They just need to use existing interfaces.
> 
> So they need to know what has been passed to suspend_devices_and_enter()
> anyway and currently there's no interface for that.  That actually is the source
> of the whole issue.

Yep, I don't like that, but I guess we should give drivers enough
information to ask regulator framework.

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 1/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state()
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:22:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170716182235.GB14461@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5290346.YItt1Jp12B@aspire.rjw.lan>

Hi!

> > > So why exactly isn't it reasonable?
> > > 
> > > Please use technical arguments.  Saying that something is wrong without
> > > explaining the problem you see with it isn't particulatly useful in technical
> > > discussions.
> > 
> > Deep in your heart, you should know that having enum listing all the platforms linux
> > runs on is a very bad idea.
> 
> Even so, if I'm unable to explain to people why this is a bad idea in technical
> terms, that doesn't mean too much.

I could say something O(#drivers * #platforms) vs. O(#drivers +
#platforms) lines of code -- but I thought it was obvious...?

> > Anyway, there are better solutions, regulator framework already knows if given rail
> > will be powered off or not, and their driver already knows if they are going
> > suspend/standby. They just need to use existing interfaces.
> 
> So they need to know what has been passed to suspend_devices_and_enter()
> anyway and currently there's no interface for that.  That actually is the source
> of the whole issue.

Yep, I don't like that, but I guess we should give drivers enough
information to ask regulator framework.

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-16 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-09 15:20 Drivers taking different actions depending on sleep state Mason
2017-06-09 15:20 ` Mason
2017-06-09 16:27 ` Mason
2017-06-09 16:27   ` Mason
2017-06-09 21:30   ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-09 21:30     ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-10  9:16     ` Mason
2017-06-10  9:16       ` Mason
2017-06-09 22:05 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-09 22:05   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-09 22:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-09 22:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 21:16   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 21:16     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 21:59     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 21:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 22:48       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 22:48         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 22:57         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 22:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-21 23:55           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-21 23:55             ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22  0:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22  0:03               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 15:18               ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22 15:18                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-22 16:09                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 16:09                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22  8:51             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-22  8:51               ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-22 16:00               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-22 16:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-23  1:08               ` [RFC 0/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` [RFC 1/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-29 23:00                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-29 23:00                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-12 18:08                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-12 18:08                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-14 22:16                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-14 22:16                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15  6:28                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15  6:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 12:17                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 12:17                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 16:46                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 16:46                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-15 17:20                               ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 17:20                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 18:33                                 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-15 18:33                                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-06  3:18                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:18                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 13:41                                     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 13:41                                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 15:35                                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:35                                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 23:24                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:24                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:34                                   ` Mason
2017-07-15 23:34                                     ` Mason
2017-07-15 23:38                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:38                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 10:22                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:22                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 13:38                                           ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 13:38                                             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-16 18:24                                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 18:24                                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 15:41                                           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:41                                             ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-15 23:29                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-15 23:29                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-06  3:17                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:17                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 10:28                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:28                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 18:22                                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-07-16 18:22                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-23  1:08                 ` [RFC 2/2] soc: bcm: brcmstb: PM: Implement target_state callback Florian Fainelli
2017-06-23  1:08                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-29 23:04                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-29 23:04                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                 ` [PATCH 0/2] PM / suspend: Add platform_suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` [PATCH 1/2] " Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-06  3:18                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-06  3:18                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-16 15:41                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 15:41                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16 10:30                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16 10:30                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-16  2:36                   ` [PATCH 2/2] soc: bcm: brcmstb: PM: Implement target_state callback Florian Fainelli
2017-07-16  2:36                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:06                   ` [PATCH v2] PM / suspend: Add suspend_target_state() Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:06                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 20:16                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 20:16                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 21:03                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 21:03                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 21:21                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 21:21                           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-20  8:03                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-20  8:03                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-17 22:10                   ` [PATCH v3] PM / suspend: Export pm_suspend_target_state Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 22:10                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-17 23:24                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-17 23:24                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-18  0:19                     ` [PATCH v4] " Florian Fainelli
2017-07-18  0:19                       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-24 20:55                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-24 20:55                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-07-13 12:03               ` Drivers taking different actions depending on sleep state Pavel Machek
2017-07-13 12:03                 ` Pavel Machek

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