From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, mingo@elte.hu, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org, arjan@infradead.org, matthew@wil.cx, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/19] MUTEX: Introduce simple mutex implementation Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:35:07 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <16315.1134563707@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <1134559121.25663.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote: > Why bother. As has already been discussed up and down are the natural > and normal names for counting semaphores. You don't need to obsolete the > old API thats just silly, you need to add a new one and wait for people > to use it. The vast majority of ups and downs are actually mutex related not semaphore related, so by majority share, up/down perhaps ought to be repurposed to mutexes: they _are_ the preeminent uses. >From my modified tree, I see: semaphore up down down_in down_try Counting 41 59 1 0 Mutex 4405 2824 362 107 > The old API is still very useful for some applications that want > counting semaphores. Whilst that is true, they're in a small minority, and it'd be easier to change them. David
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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, mingo@elte.hu, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org, torvalds@osdl.org, arjan@infradead.org, matthew@wil.cx, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/19] MUTEX: Introduce simple mutex implementation Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:35:07 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <16315.1134563707@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <1134559121.25663.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote: > Why bother. As has already been discussed up and down are the natural > and normal names for counting semaphores. You don't need to obsolete the > old API thats just silly, you need to add a new one and wait for people > to use it. The vast majority of ups and downs are actually mutex related not semaphore related, so by majority share, up/down perhaps ought to be repurposed to mutexes: they _are_ the preeminent uses. From my modified tree, I see: semaphore up down down_in down_try Counting 41 59 1 0 Mutex 4405 2824 362 107 > The old API is still very useful for some applications that want > counting semaphores. Whilst that is true, they're in a small minority, and it'd be easier to change them. David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-14 12:35 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 261+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2005-12-12 23:45 [PATCH 1/19] MUTEX: Introduce simple mutex implementation David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 2/19] MUTEX: i386 arch mutex David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 8/19] MUTEX: Drivers I-K changes David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 7/19] MUTEX: Drivers F-H changes David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 6/19] MUTEX: Drivers A-E changes David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 3/19] MUTEX: x86_64 arch mutex David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 5/19] MUTEX: Core kernel changes David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 4/19] MUTEX: FRV arch mutex David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 15/19] MUTEX: Second set of include changes David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 10/19] MUTEX: Drivers N-P changes David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 9/19] MUTEX: Drivers L-M changes David Howells 2005-12-12 23:45 ` [PATCH 13/19] 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