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From: Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Branislav Rankov <Branislav.Rankov@arm.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mte: Enable async tag check fault
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 14:48:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c0577c1-bf73-2c00-b137-9f7251afd20e@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210118141429.GC31263@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

Hi Mark,

On 1/18/21 2:14 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 01:37:35PM +0000, Vincenzo Frascino wrote:
>> On 1/18/21 12:57 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> 
>>>> +	if (tfsr_el1 & SYS_TFSR_EL1_TF1) {
>>>> +		write_sysreg_s(0, SYS_TFSR_EL1);
>>>> +		isb();
>>> While in general we use ISB after a sysreg update, I haven't convinced
>>> myself it's needed here. There's no side-effect to updating this reg and
>>> a subsequent TFSR access should see the new value.
>>
>> Why there is no side-effect?
> 
> Catalin's saying that the value of TFSR_EL1 doesn't affect anything
> other than a read of TFSR_EL1, i.e. there are no indirect reads of
> TFSR_EL1 where the value has an effect, so there are no side-effects.
> 
> Looking at the ARM ARM, no synchronization is requires from a direct
> write to an indirect write (per ARM DDI 0487F.c table D13-1), so I agree
> that we don't need the ISB here so long as there are no indirect reads.
> 
> Are you aware of cases where the TFSR_EL1 value is read other than by an
> MRS? e.g. are there any cases where checks are elided if TF1 is set? If
> so, we may need the ISB to order the direct write against subsequent
> indirect reads.
> 

Thank you for the explanation. I am not aware of any case in which TFSR_EL1 is
read other then by an MRS. Based on the ARM DDI 0487F.c (J1-7626) TF0/TF1 are
always set to '1' without being accessed before. I will check with the
architects for further clarification and if this is correct I will remove the
isb() in the next version.

> Thanks,
> Mark.
> 

-- 
Regards,
Vincenzo

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From: Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Branislav Rankov <Branislav.Rankov@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mte: Enable async tag check fault
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 14:48:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c0577c1-bf73-2c00-b137-9f7251afd20e@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210118141429.GC31263@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

Hi Mark,

On 1/18/21 2:14 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 01:37:35PM +0000, Vincenzo Frascino wrote:
>> On 1/18/21 12:57 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> 
>>>> +	if (tfsr_el1 & SYS_TFSR_EL1_TF1) {
>>>> +		write_sysreg_s(0, SYS_TFSR_EL1);
>>>> +		isb();
>>> While in general we use ISB after a sysreg update, I haven't convinced
>>> myself it's needed here. There's no side-effect to updating this reg and
>>> a subsequent TFSR access should see the new value.
>>
>> Why there is no side-effect?
> 
> Catalin's saying that the value of TFSR_EL1 doesn't affect anything
> other than a read of TFSR_EL1, i.e. there are no indirect reads of
> TFSR_EL1 where the value has an effect, so there are no side-effects.
> 
> Looking at the ARM ARM, no synchronization is requires from a direct
> write to an indirect write (per ARM DDI 0487F.c table D13-1), so I agree
> that we don't need the ISB here so long as there are no indirect reads.
> 
> Are you aware of cases where the TFSR_EL1 value is read other than by an
> MRS? e.g. are there any cases where checks are elided if TF1 is set? If
> so, we may need the ISB to order the direct write against subsequent
> indirect reads.
> 

Thank you for the explanation. I am not aware of any case in which TFSR_EL1 is
read other then by an MRS. Based on the ARM DDI 0487F.c (J1-7626) TF0/TF1 are
always set to '1' without being accessed before. I will check with the
architects for further clarification and if this is correct I will remove the
isb() in the next version.

> Thanks,
> Mark.
> 

-- 
Regards,
Vincenzo

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-18 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-15 12:00 [PATCH v3 0/4] arm64: ARMv8.5-A: MTE: Add async mode support Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00 ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] kasan, arm64: Add KASAN light mode Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00   ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 15:08   ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-15 15:08     ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-16 13:47     ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-16 13:47       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-16 14:09       ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-16 14:09         ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-18 10:24       ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-18 10:24         ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-15 18:59   ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-15 18:59     ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-16 13:40     ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-16 13:40       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-16 13:59       ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-16 13:59         ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-16 14:06         ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-16 14:06           ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] arm64: mte: Add asynchronous mode support Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00   ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 15:13   ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-15 15:13     ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-16 13:49     ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-16 13:49       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] arm64: mte: Enable async tag check fault Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00   ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 15:37   ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-15 15:37     ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-18 12:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-01-18 12:57     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-01-18 13:37     ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-18 13:37       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-18 14:14       ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-18 14:14         ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-18 14:48         ` Vincenzo Frascino [this message]
2021-01-18 14:48           ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-18 15:39           ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-18 15:39             ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-18 15:40       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-18 15:40         ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] arm64: mte: Optimize mte_assign_mem_tag_range() Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 12:00   ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-15 15:45   ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-15 15:45     ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-16 14:22     ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-16 14:22       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-17 12:27       ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-17 12:27         ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-18 10:41         ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-18 10:41           ` Mark Rutland
2021-01-18 11:00           ` Vincenzo Frascino
2021-01-18 11:00             ` Vincenzo Frascino

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