From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com
Cc: dunc@lemonia.org, kalle.valo@iki.fi, kaber@trash.net,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network QoS support in applications
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:27:54 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100311.112754.142886660.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9942A7.40205@redfish-solutions.com>
From: "Philip A. Prindeville" <philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:21:11 -0700
> And yes, there will always be misbehaving users. They are a fact of
> life. That doesn't mean we should lobotomize the network. We don't
> have an authentication mechanism on ICMP Redirects or Source-Quench,
Which is why most networks block those packets from the outside.
> Nor is ARP authenticated.
Which is why people control who can plug into their physical
network.
None of the things you are saying support the idea of having
applications decide what the DSCP marking should be.
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Subject: Re: Network QoS support in applications
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:27:54 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100311.112754.142886660.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9942A7.40205-9z15yex7P+UJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
From: "Philip A. Prindeville" <philipp_subx-9z15yex7P+UJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:21:11 -0700
> And yes, there will always be misbehaving users. They are a fact of
> life. That doesn't mean we should lobotomize the network. We don't
> have an authentication mechanism on ICMP Redirects or Source-Quench,
Which is why most networks block those packets from the outside.
> Nor is ARP authenticated.
Which is why people control who can plug into their physical
network.
None of the things you are saying support the idea of having
applications decide what the DSCP marking should be.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-11 19:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-26 8:27 Network QoS support in applications Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 8:27 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 11:30 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 11:30 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 11:51 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 11:51 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 11:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 11:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 12:16 ` David Miller
2010-01-26 12:16 ` David Miller
2010-01-26 12:56 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 13:06 ` David Miller
2010-01-26 13:47 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 13:47 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 14:02 ` Dunc
2010-01-26 14:27 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 14:27 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 21:54 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-01-26 21:54 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-01-27 7:11 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-27 1:57 ` Zhu Yi
2010-01-27 13:24 ` Benny Amorsen
2010-03-11 19:21 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-03-11 19:27 ` David Miller [this message]
2010-03-11 19:27 ` David Miller
2010-03-11 19:29 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-03-11 19:29 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-05-19 0:04 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-05-31 19:30 ` Ben Gardiner
2010-05-31 19:30 ` Ben Gardiner
2010-05-31 20:28 ` Philip Prindeville
2010-01-26 14:43 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2010-01-26 14:43 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2010-01-26 13:06 ` Henning Rogge
2010-01-26 13:06 ` Henning Rogge
2010-01-27 6:59 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 15:29 ` Steven Blake
2010-01-27 7:03 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-27 16:18 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-01-27 16:26 ` Greg Oliver
2010-03-11 18:56 ` Philip A. Prindeville
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