From: "Philip A. Prindeville" <philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: dunc@lemonia.org, kalle.valo@iki.fi, kaber@trash.net,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Network QoS support in applications
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:29:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B9944A0.5080308@redfish-solutions.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100311.112754.142886660.davem@davemloft.net>
On 03/11/2010 12:27 PM, David Miller wrote:
> From: "Philip A. Prindeville" <philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com>
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:21:11 -0700
>
>> And yes, there will always be misbehaving users. They are a fact of
>> life. That doesn't mean we should lobotomize the network. We don't
>> have an authentication mechanism on ICMP Redirects or Source-Quench,
>
> Which is why most networks block those packets from the outside.
>
>> Nor is ARP authenticated.
>
> Which is why people control who can plug into their physical
> network.
>
> None of the things you are saying support the idea of having
> applications decide what the DSCP marking should be.
Does "decide what the DSCP marking should be" include complying to the recommendations of RFC-4594?
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From: "Philip A. Prindeville" <philipp_subx-9z15yex7P+UJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
To: David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dunc-9b9L1Hpe0sBAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org,
kalle.valo-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org,
kaber-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org,
netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Network QoS support in applications
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:29:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B9944A0.5080308@redfish-solutions.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100311.112754.142886660.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
On 03/11/2010 12:27 PM, David Miller wrote:
> From: "Philip A. Prindeville" <philipp_subx-9z15yex7P+UJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:21:11 -0700
>
>> And yes, there will always be misbehaving users. They are a fact of
>> life. That doesn't mean we should lobotomize the network. We don't
>> have an authentication mechanism on ICMP Redirects or Source-Quench,
>
> Which is why most networks block those packets from the outside.
>
>> Nor is ARP authenticated.
>
> Which is why people control who can plug into their physical
> network.
>
> None of the things you are saying support the idea of having
> applications decide what the DSCP marking should be.
Does "decide what the DSCP marking should be" include complying to the recommendations of RFC-4594?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-11 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-26 8:27 Network QoS support in applications Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 8:27 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 11:30 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 11:30 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 11:51 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 11:51 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 11:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 11:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-26 12:16 ` David Miller
2010-01-26 12:16 ` David Miller
2010-01-26 12:56 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 13:06 ` David Miller
2010-01-26 13:47 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 13:47 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 14:02 ` Dunc
2010-01-26 14:27 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 14:27 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 21:54 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-01-26 21:54 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-01-27 7:11 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-27 1:57 ` Zhu Yi
2010-01-27 13:24 ` Benny Amorsen
2010-03-11 19:21 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-03-11 19:27 ` David Miller
2010-03-11 19:27 ` David Miller
2010-03-11 19:29 ` Philip A. Prindeville [this message]
2010-03-11 19:29 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-05-19 0:04 ` Philip A. Prindeville
2010-05-31 19:30 ` Ben Gardiner
2010-05-31 19:30 ` Ben Gardiner
2010-05-31 20:28 ` Philip Prindeville
2010-01-26 14:43 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2010-01-26 14:43 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2010-01-26 13:06 ` Henning Rogge
2010-01-26 13:06 ` Henning Rogge
2010-01-27 6:59 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-26 15:29 ` Steven Blake
2010-01-27 7:03 ` Kalle Valo
2010-01-27 16:18 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-01-27 16:26 ` Greg Oliver
2010-03-11 18:56 ` Philip A. Prindeville
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