From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com> To: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Izik Eidus <izik.eidus@ravellosystems.com>, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, "linux-mm" <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, "linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 V2] ksm: take dirty bit as reference to avoid volatile pages scanning Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:47:39 +0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <201106221247.39827.nai.xia@gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20110622003536.GQ25383@sequoia.sous-sol.org> On Wednesday 22 June 2011 08:35:36 Chris Wright wrote: > * Nai Xia (nai.xia@gmail.com) wrote: > > (Sorry for repeated mail, I forgot to Cc the list..) > > > > On Wednesday 22 June 2011 06:38:00 you wrote: > > > * Nai Xia (nai.xia@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > Introduced ksm_page_changed() to reference the dirty bit of a pte. We clear > > > > the dirty bit for each pte scanned but don't flush the tlb. For a huge page, > > > > if one of the subpage has changed, we try to skip the whole huge page > > > > assuming(this is true by now) that ksmd linearly scans the address space. > > > > > > This doesn't build w/ kvm as a module. > > > > I think it's because of the name-error of a related kvm patch, which I only sent > > in a same email thread. http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=130866318804277&w=2 > > The patch split is not clean...I'll redo it. > > > > It needs an export as it is. > ERROR: "kvm_dirty_update" [arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko] undefined! Oops, yes, I forgot to do that! I'll correct it in the next submission. Thanks, Nai > > Although perhaps could be done w/out that dirty_update altogether (as I > mentioned in other email)? > > > > > > > > A NEW_FLAG is also introduced as a status of rmap_item to make ksmd scan > > > > more aggressively for new VMAs - only skip the pages considered to be volatile > > > > by the dirty bits. This can be enabled/disabled through KSM's sysfs interface. > > > > > > This seems like it should be separated out. And while it might be useful > > > to enable/disable for testing, I don't think it's worth supporting for > > > the long term. Would also be useful to see the value of this flag. > > > > I think it maybe useful for uses who want to turn on/off this scan policy explicitly > > according to their working sets? > > Can you split it out, and show the benefit of it directly? I think it > only benefits: > > p = mmap() > memset(p, $value, entire buffer); > ... > very slowly (w.r.t scan times) touch bits of buffer and trigger cow to > break sharing. > > Would you agree? > > thanks, > -chris >
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From: Nai Xia <nai.xia@gmail.com> To: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Izik Eidus <izik.eidus@ravellosystems.com>, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 V2] ksm: take dirty bit as reference to avoid volatile pages scanning Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:47:39 +0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <201106221247.39827.nai.xia@gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20110622003536.GQ25383@sequoia.sous-sol.org> On Wednesday 22 June 2011 08:35:36 Chris Wright wrote: > * Nai Xia (nai.xia@gmail.com) wrote: > > (Sorry for repeated mail, I forgot to Cc the list..) > > > > On Wednesday 22 June 2011 06:38:00 you wrote: > > > * Nai Xia (nai.xia@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > Introduced ksm_page_changed() to reference the dirty bit of a pte. We clear > > > > the dirty bit for each pte scanned but don't flush the tlb. For a huge page, > > > > if one of the subpage has changed, we try to skip the whole huge page > > > > assuming(this is true by now) that ksmd linearly scans the address space. > > > > > > This doesn't build w/ kvm as a module. > > > > I think it's because of the name-error of a related kvm patch, which I only sent > > in a same email thread. http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=130866318804277&w=2 > > The patch split is not clean...I'll redo it. > > > > It needs an export as it is. > ERROR: "kvm_dirty_update" [arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko] undefined! Oops, yes, I forgot to do that! I'll correct it in the next submission. Thanks, Nai > > Although perhaps could be done w/out that dirty_update altogether (as I > mentioned in other email)? > > > > > > > > A NEW_FLAG is also introduced as a status of rmap_item to make ksmd scan > > > > more aggressively for new VMAs - only skip the pages considered to be volatile > > > > by the dirty bits. This can be enabled/disabled through KSM's sysfs interface. > > > > > > This seems like it should be separated out. And while it might be useful > > > to enable/disable for testing, I don't think it's worth supporting for > > > the long term. Would also be useful to see the value of this flag. > > > > I think it maybe useful for uses who want to turn on/off this scan policy explicitly > > according to their working sets? > > Can you split it out, and show the benefit of it directly? I think it > only benefits: > > p = mmap() > memset(p, $value, entire buffer); > ... > very slowly (w.r.t scan times) touch bits of buffer and trigger cow to > break sharing. > > Would you agree? > > thanks, > -chris > -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/ Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-22 4:48 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2011-06-21 12:55 [PATCH 0/2 V2] ksm: take dirty bit as reference to avoid volatile pages scanning Nai Xia 2011-06-21 12:55 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-21 13:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 " Nai Xia 2011-06-21 13:26 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-21 21:42 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-21 21:42 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 0:02 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 0:02 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 0:42 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 0:42 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-21 13:32 ` [PATCH] mmu_notifier, kvm: Introduce dirty bit tracking in spte and mmu notifier to help KSM dirty bit tracking Nai Xia 2011-06-21 13:32 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 0:21 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 0:21 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 4:43 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 4:43 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 6:15 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 6:15 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 6:38 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 6:38 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 15:46 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 15:46 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 10:43 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 10:43 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:05 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 11:05 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 11:10 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:10 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:19 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 11:19 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 11:24 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:24 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:28 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:28 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:31 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:31 ` Avi Kivity 2011-06-22 11:33 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 11:33 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 11:39 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 11:39 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 15:39 ` Rik van Riel 2011-06-22 15:39 ` Rik van Riel 2011-06-22 16:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-22 16:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-22 23:37 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:37 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-22 23:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-23 0:31 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-23 0:31 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-23 0:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-23 0:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-23 1:36 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-23 1:36 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-23 0:00 ` Rik van Riel 2011-06-23 0:00 ` Rik van Riel 2011-06-23 0:42 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-23 0:42 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:13 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:13 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-22 23:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-23 1:30 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-23 1:30 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:28 ` Rik van Riel 2011-06-22 23:28 ` Rik van Riel 2011-06-23 0:52 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-23 0:52 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 11:24 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 15:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-22 15:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-22 15:19 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 15:19 ` Izik Eidus 2011-06-22 23:19 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:19 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-22 23:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli 2011-06-23 0:14 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-23 0:14 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:42 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 23:42 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-21 13:36 ` [PATCH 2/2 V2] ksm: take dirty bit as reference to avoid volatile pages scanning Nai Xia 2011-06-21 13:36 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-21 22:38 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-21 22:38 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 0:04 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 0:04 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 0:35 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 0:35 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 4:47 ` Nai Xia [this message] 2011-06-22 4:47 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 10:55 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 10:55 ` Nai Xia 2011-06-22 0:46 ` [PATCH 0/2 " Chris Wright 2011-06-22 0:46 ` Chris Wright 2011-06-22 4:15 ` Nai Xia
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