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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/10] KVM: arm64: guest debug, add SW break point support
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:10:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150429081047.GB4137@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tww0qqh9.fsf@linaro.org>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 03:37:01PM +0100, Alex Bennée wrote:
> 
> Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:34:12AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> On 28 April 2015 at 09:42, Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> > Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> >> >> Does the kernel already have a conveniently implemented "inject
> >> >> exception into guest" lump of code? If so it might be less effort
> >> >> to do it that way round, maybe.
> >> >
> >> > So you pointed out we can't just re-inject the exceptions we get as we
> >> > need to map from things like ESR_ELx_EC_WATCHPT_LOW to
> >> > ESR_ELx_EC_WATCHPT_CUR before re-injection.
> >> >
> >> > Of course if it is as simple as modifying the ESR_EL1 register and
> >> > returning +ve in the handle_exit path then I can do that but I assumed
> >> > if any other wrangling needs doing it should be done in userspace.
> >> 
> >> Well, somebody's got to do it, and it's the same amount of work
> >> either way (fiddling with ESR, making sure we direct the guest
> >> to the right exception vector entry point, maybe a few other
> >> things).
> >> 
> > We already have code in the kernel to inject data/instruction aborts,
> > but not sure how much benefit there is in re-using that.  It's up to you
> > really, but I think the kernel code should be clear about what the
> > intention is so that we don't end up in a situation where: (1) The
> > intended behavior is unclear/vague, and (2) it doesn't actually work in
> > practice so nobody can follow the code.
> 
> Certainly there are some cases where the kernel doesn't have all the
> information. For example it doesn't know if the soft break was inserted
> by the guest or the host. That to me favours the "let userspace deal
> with the ugly" approach.
> 
Not sure I follow.

If it's an exception for the guest, then that must be because the guest
put in the breakpoint instruction, right?

However, that's a separate discussion from that of *how* userspace or
the kernel then injects an exception to the guest.

By using some QEMU TCG functionality or by QEMU calling back into KVM
and asking it to inject an exception for it.

What am I missing?

-Christoffer

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: christoffer.dall@linaro.org (Christoffer Dall)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 06/10] KVM: arm64: guest debug, add SW break point support
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:10:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150429081047.GB4137@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tww0qqh9.fsf@linaro.org>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 03:37:01PM +0100, Alex Benn?e wrote:
> 
> Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:34:12AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> On 28 April 2015 at 09:42, Alex Benn?e <alex.bennee@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> > Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> >> >> Does the kernel already have a conveniently implemented "inject
> >> >> exception into guest" lump of code? If so it might be less effort
> >> >> to do it that way round, maybe.
> >> >
> >> > So you pointed out we can't just re-inject the exceptions we get as we
> >> > need to map from things like ESR_ELx_EC_WATCHPT_LOW to
> >> > ESR_ELx_EC_WATCHPT_CUR before re-injection.
> >> >
> >> > Of course if it is as simple as modifying the ESR_EL1 register and
> >> > returning +ve in the handle_exit path then I can do that but I assumed
> >> > if any other wrangling needs doing it should be done in userspace.
> >> 
> >> Well, somebody's got to do it, and it's the same amount of work
> >> either way (fiddling with ESR, making sure we direct the guest
> >> to the right exception vector entry point, maybe a few other
> >> things).
> >> 
> > We already have code in the kernel to inject data/instruction aborts,
> > but not sure how much benefit there is in re-using that.  It's up to you
> > really, but I think the kernel code should be clear about what the
> > intention is so that we don't end up in a situation where: (1) The
> > intended behavior is unclear/vague, and (2) it doesn't actually work in
> > practice so nobody can follow the code.
> 
> Certainly there are some cases where the kernel doesn't have all the
> information. For example it doesn't know if the soft break was inserted
> by the guest or the host. That to me favours the "let userspace deal
> with the ugly" approach.
> 
Not sure I follow.

If it's an exception for the guest, then that must be because the guest
put in the breakpoint instruction, right?

However, that's a separate discussion from that of *how* userspace or
the kernel then injects an exception to the guest.

By using some QEMU TCG functionality or by QEMU calling back into KVM
and asking it to inject an exception for it.

What am I missing?

-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-29  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 199+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-31 15:07 [PATCH v2 00/10] KVM Guest Debug support for arm64 Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:07 ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:07 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] KVM: add commentary for kvm_debug_exit_arch struct Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:07   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:07   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-01 15:38   ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 15:38     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 15:38     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 15:38     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-10 12:58   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:58     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13 10:57   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 10:57     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 10:57     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] KVM: define common __KVM_GUESTDBG_USE_SW/HW_BP values Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-10 12:59   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:59     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:59     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:59     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13 11:55   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 11:55     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 11:55     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 11:55     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 14:51     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13 14:51       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13 14:51       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13 14:51       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13 15:07       ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13 15:07         ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13 15:07         ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13 15:07         ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-14  8:24       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14  8:24         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14  8:24         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14  8:24         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14  8:24         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] KVM: arm: guest debug, define API headers Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-01 15:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 15:46     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 15:46     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 16:01     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-01 16:01       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-01 16:05       ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 16:05         ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 16:09       ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-01 16:09         ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-10 13:05   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 13:05     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 13:05     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13 12:08   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 12:08     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-23  9:54     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-23  9:54       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-23  9:54       ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] KVM: arm: guest debug, add stub KVM_SET_GUEST_DEBUG ioctl Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-01 15:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 15:55     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 15:55     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-09 12:28     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 12:28       ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 12:28       ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 14:19       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-09 14:19         ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-09 14:19         ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13 12:12   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 12:12     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 12:12     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14  6:31     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-14  6:31       ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-14  6:31       ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-14  8:03       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-14  8:03         ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-14  8:03         ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] KVM: arm: introduce kvm_arch_setup/clear_debug() Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-01 16:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 16:28     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-01 16:28     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-09 12:56     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 12:56       ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 12:56       ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 14:18       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-09 14:18         ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-09 12:55   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 12:55     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 12:55     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13 14:36   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 14:36     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 14:48     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 14:48       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 14:48       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-13 15:29     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13 15:29       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13 15:29       ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] KVM: arm64: guest debug, add SW break point support Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-02 12:52   ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-02 12:52     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-02 12:52     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-04-02 14:06     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-02 14:06       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-02 14:06       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-10 13:09   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 13:09     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 13:09     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-14  8:25   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14  8:25     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-23 14:26     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-23 14:26       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-23 14:26       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-27 20:04       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-27 20:04         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-27 21:57         ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-27 21:57           ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-28  8:42           ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-28  8:42             ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-28  8:42             ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-28  9:34             ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-28  9:34               ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-28 12:56               ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-28 12:56                 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-28 14:37                 ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-28 14:37                   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-28 14:37                   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-29  8:10                   ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2015-04-29  8:10                     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-29  9:18                     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-29  9:18                       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-29  9:18                       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-29 10:38                       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-29 10:38                         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-29 15:08                         ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-29 15:08                           ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-29 15:08                           ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-29 19:20                           ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-29 19:20                             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-21 14:42   ` Zhichao Huang
2015-04-22  9:46     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-22  9:46       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-22  9:46       ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] KVM: arm64: guest debug, add support for single-step Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-09 13:24   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 13:24     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-09 14:16     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-09 14:16       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-09 14:16       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-14  8:27   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14  8:27     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14  8:27     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] KVM: arm64: guest debug, HW assisted debug support Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-10 12:25   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:25     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:25     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13  8:00     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13  8:00       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13  8:00       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-14 10:23     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:23       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:17   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:17     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:17     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] KVM: arm64: trap nested debug register access Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-10 12:38   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:38     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:38     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13  7:59     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13  7:59       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13  7:59       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-14 10:27       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:27         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:27         ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:30   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:30     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:30     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-03-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] KVM: arm64: add trace points for guest_debug debug Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-03-31 15:08   ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-10 12:54   ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-10 12:54     ` Andrew Jones
2015-04-13  7:57     ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-13  7:57       ` Alex Bennée
2015-04-14 10:32   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:32     ` Christoffer Dall
2015-04-14 10:32     ` Christoffer Dall

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