Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues

From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, .jra@samba.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@sfconservancy.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:45:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160830164540.GA4925@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160830161557.GN3296@wotan.suse.de>

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 06:15:57PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 08:55:42AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 09:24:54PM -0700, Jeremy Allison via Ksummit-discuss wrote:
> > > Your opinion on that is clear and I understand why you hold it.
> > > There are many other developers who hold the same opinion, but
> > > lots of them work on FreeBSD not Linux.
> > > 
> > > Respectfully, I don't agree with you. Greg and Ted seem to agree
> > > with you, Linus (like me) seems to imagine there can be a case for
> > > that shiny red button.
> > 
> > For the record, I believe there can be a case for the shiny red
> > button.  I just want Linus, and not the SFC (or some --- as admitted
> > by the SFC --- minority set of developers), to be the one who decides
> > when it's appropriate to push it.
> > 
> > I've said it before, and I've said it again.  For me, this is much
> > more about a project governance issue.  We don't let random pissed off
> > army officers decide when to start World War III. 
> 
> If you are trying to equate "random pissed off officers" with those kernel
> developers part of the SFC alliance, then I have to say that is perhaps one of
> the most stupid misrepresentations of members of SFC that I have heard so far.
> Unless of course your statement is educated, you know all members part of SFC
> and have asked each one why they joined.

That brings up a question, who exactly is the SFC representing here?
What developers have signed over copyrights to the SFC?  Was this done
in a "permanent" way?  "revoking" copyright assignment isn't exactly a
simple thing to do, last I checked, so is this really true?

> If you don't know then please educate yourself on this as reading this type of
> incoherent nonsense being spouted out is just offending and does nothing to help.

Without knowing the above, it's hard to know what is, or is not, a
stupid misrepresentation :)

thanks,

greg k-h