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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org"
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"oleg@redhat.com" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"dave@stgolabs.net" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"manfred@colorfullife.com" <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	"tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>, "arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"will.deacon@arm.com" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"stern@rowland.harvard.edu" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"parri.andrea@gmail.com" <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	"torvalds@linux-foundation.org" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] Remove spin_unlock_wait()
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:44:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170707084427.vdsmwkgqx6uvg7tw@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170707083128.wqk6msuuhtyykhpu@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 10:31:28AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Here's a quick list of all the use cases:
> 
>  net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core.c:
> 
>    - This is I believe the 'original', historic spin_unlock_wait() usecase that
>      still exists in the kernel. spin_unlock_wait() is only used in a rare case, 
>      when the netfilter hash is resized via nf_conntrack_hash_resize() - which is 
>      a very heavy operation to begin with. It will no doubt get slower with the 
>      proposed changes, but it probably does not matter. A networking person 
>      Acked-by would be nice though.
> 
>  drivers/ata/libata-eh.c:
> 
>    - Locking of the ATA port in ata_scsi_cmd_error_handler(), presumably this can
>      race with IRQs and ioctls() on other CPUs. Very likely not performance 
>      sensitive in any fashion, on IO errors things stop for many seconds anyway.
> 
>  ipc/sem.c:
> 
>    - A rare race condition branch in the SysV IPC semaphore freeing code in 
>      exit_sem() - where even the main code flow is not performance sensitive, 
>      because typical database workloads get their semaphore arrays during startup 
>      and don't ever do heavy runtime allocation/freeing of them.
> 
>  kernel/sched/completion.c:
> 
>    - completion_done(). This is actually a (comparatively) rarely used completion 
>      API call - almost all the upstream usecases are in drivers, plus two in 
>      filesystems - neither usecase seems in a performance critical hot path. 
>      Completions typically involve scheduling and context switching, so in the 
>      worst case the proposed change adds overhead to a scheduling slow path.
> 

You missed the one in do_exit(), which I thought was the original one.

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org"
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"oleg@redhat.com" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"dave@stgolabs.net" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"manfred@colorfullife.com" <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	"tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>, "arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"will.deacon@arm.com" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"stern@rowland.harvard.edu" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"parri.andrea@gmail.com" <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] Remove spin_unlock_wait()
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:44:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170707084427.vdsmwkgqx6uvg7tw@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170707083128.wqk6msuuhtyykhpu@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 10:31:28AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Here's a quick list of all the use cases:
> 
>  net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core.c:
> 
>    - This is I believe the 'original', historic spin_unlock_wait() usecase that
>      still exists in the kernel. spin_unlock_wait() is only used in a rare case, 
>      when the netfilter hash is resized via nf_conntrack_hash_resize() - which is 
>      a very heavy operation to begin with. It will no doubt get slower with the 
>      proposed changes, but it probably does not matter. A networking person 
>      Acked-by would be nice though.
> 
>  drivers/ata/libata-eh.c:
> 
>    - Locking of the ATA port in ata_scsi_cmd_error_handler(), presumably this can
>      race with IRQs and ioctls() on other CPUs. Very likely not performance 
>      sensitive in any fashion, on IO errors things stop for many seconds anyway.
> 
>  ipc/sem.c:
> 
>    - A rare race condition branch in the SysV IPC semaphore freeing code in 
>      exit_sem() - where even the main code flow is not performance sensitive, 
>      because typical database workloads get their semaphore arrays during startup 
>      and don't ever do heavy runtime allocation/freeing of them.
> 
>  kernel/sched/completion.c:
> 
>    - completion_done(). This is actually a (comparatively) rarely used completion 
>      API call - almost all the upstream usecases are in drivers, plus two in 
>      filesystems - neither usecase seems in a performance critical hot path. 
>      Completions typically involve scheduling and context switching, so in the 
>      worst case the proposed change adds overhead to a scheduling slow path.
> 

You missed the one in do_exit(), which I thought was the original one.

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org"
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"oleg@redhat.com" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"dave@stgolabs.net" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"manfred@colorfullife.com" <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	"tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>, "arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"will.deacon@arm.com" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"stern@rowland.harvard.edu" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"parri.andrea@gmail.com" <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] Remove spin_unlock_wait()
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:44:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170707084427.vdsmwkgqx6uvg7tw@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170707083128.wqk6msuuhtyykhpu@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 10:31:28AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Here's a quick list of all the use cases:
> 
>  net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core.c:
> 
>    - This is I believe the 'original', historic spin_unlock_wait() usecase that
>      still exists in the kernel. spin_unlock_wait() is only used in a rare case, 
>      when the netfilter hash is resized via nf_conntrack_hash_resize() - which is 
>      a very heavy operation to begin with. It will no doubt get slower with the 
>      proposed changes, but it probably does not matter. A networking person 
>      Acked-by would be nice though.
> 
>  drivers/ata/libata-eh.c:
> 
>    - Locking of the ATA port in ata_scsi_cmd_error_handler(), presumably this can
>      race with IRQs and ioctls() on other CPUs. Very likely not performance 
>      sensitive in any fashion, on IO errors things stop for many seconds anyway.
> 
>  ipc/sem.c:
> 
>    - A rare race condition branch in the SysV IPC semaphore freeing code in 
>      exit_sem() - where even the main code flow is not performance sensitive, 
>      because typical database workloads get their semaphore arrays during startup 
>      and don't ever do heavy runtime allocation/freeing of them.
> 
>  kernel/sched/completion.c:
> 
>    - completion_done(). This is actually a (comparatively) rarely used completion 
>      API call - almost all the upstream usecases are in drivers, plus two in 
>      filesystems - neither usecase seems in a performance critical hot path. 
>      Completions typically involve scheduling and context switching, so in the 
>      worst case the proposed change adds overhead to a scheduling slow path.
> 

You missed the one in do_exit(), which I thought was the original one.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-07  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 211+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-29 23:59 [PATCH RFC 0/26] Remove spin_unlock_wait() Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 01/26] netfilter: Replace spin_unlock_wait() with lock/unlock pair Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]   ` <a6642feb-2f3a-980f-5ed6-2deb79563e6b@colorfullife.com>
2017-07-02  2:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-03 14:39     ` Alan Stern
2017-07-03 14:39       ` Alan Stern
2017-07-03 17:14       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-03 19:01         ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-03 19:57           ` Alan Stern
2017-07-03 19:57             ` Alan Stern
2017-07-06 18:43             ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-06 18:43               ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-06 18:43               ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-03 20:04         ` Alan Stern
2017-07-03 20:04           ` Alan Stern
2017-07-03 20:53           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 02/26] task_work: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 11:04   ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-06-30 12:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 15:20       ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-06-30 16:16         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 17:21           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 19:21           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-06-30 19:50             ` Alan Stern
2017-06-30 19:50               ` Alan Stern
2017-06-30 20:04               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 20:02             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 20:19               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 03/26] sched: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 10:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-30 12:35     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 04/26] completion: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 05/26] exit: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 06/26] ipc: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-01 19:23   ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-02  3:16     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 07/26] drivers/ata: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 08/26] locking: Remove spin_unlock_wait() generic definitions Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  9:19   ` Will Deacon
2017-06-30 12:38     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 13:13       ` Will Deacon
2017-06-30 22:18         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-03 13:15           ` Will Deacon
2017-07-03 16:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-03 16:40               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-03 17:13                 ` Will Deacon
2017-07-03 22:30                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-03 22:49                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-04  0:39                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-04  0:54                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-03 21:10                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 09/26] alpha: Remove spin_unlock_wait() arch-specific definitions Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 10/26] arc: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 11/26] arm: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 12/26] arm64: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  9:20   ` Will Deacon
2017-06-30  9:20     ` Will Deacon
2017-06-30 17:29     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30 17:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 13/26] blackfin: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 14/26] hexagon: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 15/26] ia64: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 16/26] m32r: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 17/26] metag: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 18/26] mips: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 19/26] mn10300: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 20/26] parisc: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 21/26] powerpc: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-02  3:58   ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-05 23:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 22/26] s390: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 23/26] sh: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 24/26] sparc: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 25/26] tile: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-30  0:09     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:14       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-30  0:24       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 26/26] xtensa: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-30  0:01   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] Remove spin_unlock_wait() Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core: Fix net_conntrack_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 18:45     ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-06 18:45       ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-06 18:45       ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-06 20:26       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] task_work: Replace spin_unlock_wait() with lock/unlock pair Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] sched: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] completion: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] exit: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] ipc: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] drivers/ata: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] locking: Remove spin_unlock_wait() generic definitions Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-05 23:31   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] arch: Remove spin_unlock_wait() arch-specific definitions Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 0/9] Remove spin_unlock_wait() David Laight
2017-07-06 15:21     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 15:21       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 15:21       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 16:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:24         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 16:24           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 16:24           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 16:41           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 17:03             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 17:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 17:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 16:49           ` Alan Stern
2017-07-06 16:54             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 19:37               ` Alan Stern
2017-07-06 19:37                 ` Alan Stern
2017-07-06 16:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:20       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 16:20         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 16:20         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 16:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 16:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-06 17:08           ` Will Deacon
2017-07-06 17:08             ` Will Deacon
2017-07-06 17:08             ` Will Deacon
2017-07-06 17:29             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 17:29               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 17:29               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 17:18           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 17:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-06 17:18             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07  8:31           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07  8:31             ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07  8:31             ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07  8:44             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-07-07  8:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-07  8:44               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-07 10:33               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07 10:33                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07 10:33                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07 11:23                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-07 11:23                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-07 11:23                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-07 14:41             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 14:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-08  8:43               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-08  8:43                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-08 11:41                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-08 11:41                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 17:47             ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-07 17:47               ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-07 17:47               ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-08  8:35               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-08  8:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-08 11:39                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-08 11:39                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-08 12:30                   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-08 12:30                     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-08 14:45                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-08 14:45                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-08 16:21                     ` Alan Stern
2017-07-08 16:21                       ` Alan Stern
2017-07-10 17:22                       ` Manfred Spraul
2017-07-07  8:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07  8:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07  8:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07  9:32         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07  9:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07  9:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-07 19:27   ` [PATCH v3 " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 1/9] net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_core: Fix net_conntrack_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 2/9] task_work: Replace spin_unlock_wait() with lock/unlock pair Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 3/9] sched: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 4/9] completion: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 5/9] exit: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 6/9] ipc: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 7/9] drivers/ata: " Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 8/9] locking: Remove spin_unlock_wait() generic definitions Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-07 19:28     ` [PATCH v3 9/9] arch: Remove spin_unlock_wait() arch-specific definitions Paul E. McKenney

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