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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "Paul Elliott" <paul.elliott@arm.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Andrew Jones" <drjones@redhat.com>,
	"Amit Kachhap" <amit.kachhap@arm.com>,
	"Vincenzo Frascino" <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eugene Syromiatnikov" <esyr@redhat.com>,
	"Szabolcs Nagy" <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	"Yu-cheng Yu" <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Kristina Martšenko" <kristina.martsenko@arm.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Sudakshina Das" <sudi.das@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/12] arm64: Basic Branch Target Identification support
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 16:44:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191011154444.GN27757@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191011154043.GG33537@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:40:43PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:32:26PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:25:33AM -0400, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > On 10/11/19 11:10 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 07:44:33PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > > >> @@ -730,6 +730,11 @@ static void setup_return
> > > >>  	regs->regs[29] = (unsigned long)&user->next_frame->fp;
> > > >>  	regs->pc = (unsigned long)ka->sa.sa_handler;
> > > >>  
> > > >> +	if (system_supports_bti()) {
> > > >> +		regs->pstate &= ~PSR_BTYPE_MASK;
> > > >> +		regs->pstate |= PSR_BTYPE_CALL;
> > > >> +	}
> > > >> +
> > > > 
> > > > I think we might need a comment as to what we're trying to ensure here.
> > > > 
> > > > I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that we'd generate a
> > > > pristine pstate for a signal handler, and it's not clear to me that we
> > > > must ensure the first instruction is a target instruction.
> > > 
> > > I think it makes sense to treat entry into a signal handler as a call.  Code
> > > that has been compiled for BTI, and whose page has been marked with PROT_BTI,
> > > will already have the pauth/bti markup at the beginning of the signal handler
> > > function; we might as well verify that.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise sigaction becomes a hole by which an attacker can force execution to
> > > start at any arbitrary address.
> > 
> > Ack, that's the intended rationale -- I also outlined this in the commit
> > message.
> 
> Ah, sorry. I evidently did not read that thoroughly enough.
> 
> > Does this sound reasonable?
> > 
> > 
> > Either way, I feel we should do this: any function in a PROT_BTI page
> > should have a suitable landing pad.  There's no reason I can see why
> > a protection given to any other callback function should be omitted
> > for a signal handler.
> > 
> > Note, if the signal handler isn't in a PROT_BTI page then overriding
> > BTYPE here will not trigger a Branch Target exception.
> > 
> > I'm happy to drop a brief comment into the code also, once we're
> > agreed on what the code should be doing.
> 
> So long as there's a comment as to why, I have no strong feelings here.
> :)

OK, I think it's worth a brief comment in the code either way, so I'll
add something.

Cheers
---Dave

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "Paul Elliott" <paul.elliott@arm.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Andrew Jones" <drjones@redhat.com>,
	"Amit Kachhap" <amit.kachhap@arm.com>,
	"Vincenzo Frascino" <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eugene Syromiatnikov" <esyr@redhat.com>,
	"Szabolcs Nagy" <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	"Yu-cheng Yu" <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Kristina Martšenko" <kristina.martsenko@arm.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infr
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/12] arm64: Basic Branch Target Identification support
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 16:44:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191011154444.GN27757@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191011154043.GG33537@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:40:43PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:32:26PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:25:33AM -0400, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > On 10/11/19 11:10 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 07:44:33PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > > >> @@ -730,6 +730,11 @@ static void setup_return
> > > >>  	regs->regs[29] = (unsigned long)&user->next_frame->fp;
> > > >>  	regs->pc = (unsigned long)ka->sa.sa_handler;
> > > >>  
> > > >> +	if (system_supports_bti()) {
> > > >> +		regs->pstate &= ~PSR_BTYPE_MASK;
> > > >> +		regs->pstate |= PSR_BTYPE_CALL;
> > > >> +	}
> > > >> +
> > > > 
> > > > I think we might need a comment as to what we're trying to ensure here.
> > > > 
> > > > I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that we'd generate a
> > > > pristine pstate for a signal handler, and it's not clear to me that we
> > > > must ensure the first instruction is a target instruction.
> > > 
> > > I think it makes sense to treat entry into a signal handler as a call.  Code
> > > that has been compiled for BTI, and whose page has been marked with PROT_BTI,
> > > will already have the pauth/bti markup at the beginning of the signal handler
> > > function; we might as well verify that.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise sigaction becomes a hole by which an attacker can force execution to
> > > start at any arbitrary address.
> > 
> > Ack, that's the intended rationale -- I also outlined this in the commit
> > message.
> 
> Ah, sorry. I evidently did not read that thoroughly enough.
> 
> > Does this sound reasonable?
> > 
> > 
> > Either way, I feel we should do this: any function in a PROT_BTI page
> > should have a suitable landing pad.  There's no reason I can see why
> > a protection given to any other callback function should be omitted
> > for a signal handler.
> > 
> > Note, if the signal handler isn't in a PROT_BTI page then overriding
> > BTYPE here will not trigger a Branch Target exception.
> > 
> > I'm happy to drop a brief comment into the code also, once we're
> > agreed on what the code should be doing.
> 
> So long as there's a comment as to why, I have no strong feelings here.
> :)

OK, I think it's worth a brief comment in the code either way, so I'll
add something.

Cheers
---Dave

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "Paul Elliott" <paul.elliott@arm.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"Yu-cheng Yu" <yu-cheng.yu@intel.com>,
	"Amit Kachhap" <amit.kachhap@arm.com>,
	"Vincenzo Frascino" <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eugene Syromiatnikov" <esyr@redhat.com>,
	"Szabolcs Nagy" <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Jones" <drjones@redhat.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Kristina Martšenko" <kristina.martsenko@arm.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Sudakshina Das" <sudi.das@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/12] arm64: Basic Branch Target Identification support
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 16:44:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191011154444.GN27757@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191011154043.GG33537@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:40:43PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:32:26PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:25:33AM -0400, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > On 10/11/19 11:10 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 07:44:33PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > > >> @@ -730,6 +730,11 @@ static void setup_return
> > > >>  	regs->regs[29] = (unsigned long)&user->next_frame->fp;
> > > >>  	regs->pc = (unsigned long)ka->sa.sa_handler;
> > > >>  
> > > >> +	if (system_supports_bti()) {
> > > >> +		regs->pstate &= ~PSR_BTYPE_MASK;
> > > >> +		regs->pstate |= PSR_BTYPE_CALL;
> > > >> +	}
> > > >> +
> > > > 
> > > > I think we might need a comment as to what we're trying to ensure here.
> > > > 
> > > > I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that we'd generate a
> > > > pristine pstate for a signal handler, and it's not clear to me that we
> > > > must ensure the first instruction is a target instruction.
> > > 
> > > I think it makes sense to treat entry into a signal handler as a call.  Code
> > > that has been compiled for BTI, and whose page has been marked with PROT_BTI,
> > > will already have the pauth/bti markup at the beginning of the signal handler
> > > function; we might as well verify that.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise sigaction becomes a hole by which an attacker can force execution to
> > > start at any arbitrary address.
> > 
> > Ack, that's the intended rationale -- I also outlined this in the commit
> > message.
> 
> Ah, sorry. I evidently did not read that thoroughly enough.
> 
> > Does this sound reasonable?
> > 
> > 
> > Either way, I feel we should do this: any function in a PROT_BTI page
> > should have a suitable landing pad.  There's no reason I can see why
> > a protection given to any other callback function should be omitted
> > for a signal handler.
> > 
> > Note, if the signal handler isn't in a PROT_BTI page then overriding
> > BTYPE here will not trigger a Branch Target exception.
> > 
> > I'm happy to drop a brief comment into the code also, once we're
> > agreed on what the code should be doing.
> 
> So long as there's a comment as to why, I have no strong feelings here.
> :)

OK, I think it's worth a brief comment in the code either way, so I'll
add something.

Cheers
---Dave

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Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-10 18:44 [PATCH v2 00/12] arm64: ARMv8.5-A: Branch Target Identification support Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] ELF: UAPI and Kconfig additions for ELF program properties Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] ELF: Add ELF program property parsing support Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] mm: Reserve asm-generic prot flag 0x10 for arch use Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] arm64: docs: cpu-feature-registers: Document ID_AA64PFR1_EL1 Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 13:19   ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-11 13:19     ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-11 13:19     ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-11 14:51     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 14:51       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 14:51       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-21 19:18       ` Mark Brown
2019-10-21 19:18         ` Mark Brown
2019-10-21 19:18         ` Mark Brown
2019-10-22 10:32         ` Will Deacon
2019-10-22 10:32           ` Will Deacon
2019-10-22 10:32           ` Will Deacon
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] arm64: Basic Branch Target Identification support Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06   ` [FIXUP 0/2] Fixups to patch 5 Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06     ` [FIXUP 1/2] squash! arm64: Basic Branch Target Identification support Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06     ` [FIXUP 2/2] " Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:06       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:10   ` [PATCH v2 05/12] " Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 15:10     ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 15:10     ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 15:25     ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-11 15:25       ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-11 15:25       ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-11 15:32       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:32         ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:32         ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:40         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 15:40           ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 15:40           ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 15:44           ` Dave Martin [this message]
2019-10-11 15:44             ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:44             ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 16:01             ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 16:01               ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 16:01               ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 16:42               ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 16:42                 ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 16:42                 ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 11:05                 ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:05                   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:05                   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 13:36                   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 13:36                     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 13:36                     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 17:20     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 17:20       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 17:20       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 11:10       ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:10         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:10         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 13:37         ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 13:37           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 13:37           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 11:16       ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:16         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:16         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:16         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 13:40         ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 13:40           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 13:40           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] elf: Allow arch to tweak initial mmap prot flags Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] arm64: elf: Enable BTI at exec based on ELF program properties Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] arm64: BTI: Decode BYTPE bits when printing PSTATE Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:31   ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-11 15:31     ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-11 15:31     ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-11 15:33     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:33       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:33       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] arm64: traps: Fix inconsistent faulting instruction skipping Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 15:24   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 15:24     ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 15:24     ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-15 15:21     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-15 15:21       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-15 15:21       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-15 16:42       ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-15 16:42         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-15 16:42         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-15 16:49         ` Dave Martin
2019-10-15 16:49           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-15 16:49           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 16:40           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 16:40             ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 16:40             ` Dave Martin
2019-10-22 11:09             ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-22 11:09               ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-22 11:09               ` Robin Murphy
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] arm64: traps: Shuffle code to eliminate forward declarations Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] arm64: BTI: Reset BTYPE when skipping emulated instructions Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 14:21   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 14:21     ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 14:21     ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 14:47     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 14:47       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 14:47       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 11:04       ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:04         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 11:04         ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-18 14:49         ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 14:49           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-18 14:49           ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] KVM: " Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-10 18:44   ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 14:24   ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 14:24     ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 14:24     ` Mark Rutland
2019-10-11 14:44     ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 14:44       ` Dave Martin
2019-10-11 14:44       ` Dave Martin

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