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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: "Ramuthevar,
	Vadivel MuruganX"  <vadivel.muruganx.ramuthevar@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
	anders.roxell@linaro.org, andriy.shevchenko@intel.com,
	arnd@arndb.de, brendanhiggins@google.com,
	cheol.yong.kim@intel.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	masonccyang@mxic.com.tw, miquel.raynal@bootlin.com,
	piotrs@cadence.com, qi-ming.wu@intel.com, richard@nod.at,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, vigneshr@ti.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] mtd: rawnand: Add NAND controller support on Intel LGM SoC
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:02:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200417090234.059418f6@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <003fa549-08c5-5867-2b02-54b483c16465@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:21:39 +0800
"Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX"
<vadivel.muruganx.ramuthevar@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> Hi Boris,
> 
> On 16/4/2020 7:57 pm, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:38:03 +0800
> > "Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX"
> > <vadivel.muruganx.ramuthevar@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 16/4/2020 7:17 pm, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> >>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:40:53 +0800
> >>> "Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX"
> >>> <vadivel.muruganx.ramuthevar@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>>>>> we'll be happy to have one more of the existing driver converted to  
> >>>>>>> ->exec_op() ;-).  
> >>>>>> I have completely adapted to ->exec_op() hook up to replace the legacy
> >>>>>> call-back.  
> >>>>> I suspect porting what you've done to the xway driver shouldn't be too
> >>>>> complicated.  
> >>>> Not ported from xway_nand.c driver , we have developed from the scratch
> >>>> to make it work on
> >>>> Intel LGM SoC , it's new x86 ATOM based SoC, IP itself completely
> >>>> different and most of the registers won't match.
> >>>> if we port then it would be ugly and also what are the problem may occur
> >>>> we do not know.  
> >>> Sorry but IMO they look similar enough to try to merge them.  
> >> Thanks! Boris, need suggestion from you since you are maintainer and
> >> also expertise on mtd-subsystem.  
> > I *was* the maintainer :).
> >  
> >> There are different features involved and lines of code is more, if we
> >> add new driver patches over xway-nand driver  
> > How about retro-fitting the xway logic into your driver then? I mean,
> > adding a 100 lines of code to your driver to get rid of the 500+ lines
> > we have in xway_nand.c is still a win.
> >  
> >> is completely looks ugly and it may disturb the existing functionality
> >> as well since we don't have platform to validate:'(.  
> > How ugly? Can you show us? Maybe we can come with a solution to make it
> > less ugly.
> >
> > As for the testing part, there are 4 scenarios:
> >
> > 1/ Your changes work perfectly fine on older platforms. Yay \o/!
> > 2/ You break the xway driver and existing users notice it before this
> >     series gets merged. Now you found someone to validate your changes.
> > 3/ You break the xway driver and none of the existing users notice it
> >     before the driver is merged, but they notice it afterwards. Too bad
> >     this happened after we've merged the driver, but now you've found
> >     someone to help you fix the problem :P.
> > 4/ You break things for old platforms but no one ever complains about
> >     it, either because there's no users left or because they never
> >     update their kernels. In any case, that's no longer your problem.
> >     Someone will remove those old platforms one day and get rid of the
> >     unneeded code in the NAND driver.
> >
> > What's more likely to happen is #3 or #4, and I think the NAND
> > maintainer would be fine with both.
> >
> > Note that the NAND subsystem is full of unmaintained legacy drivers, so
> > every time we see someone who could help us get rid or update one of
> > them we have to take this opportunity.  
> Agreed!, Thank you very much for the suggestions and clear inputs.
> To proceed further, can you please share your inputs to dividing the tasks
> and patches to be sent if possible.

Let's start with the new version you were about to post. We'll see how
we can merge both drivers based on that.

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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: "Ramuthevar,
	Vadivel MuruganX" <vadivel.muruganx.ramuthevar@linux.intel.com>
Cc: cheol.yong.kim@intel.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	qi-ming.wu@intel.com, anders.roxell@linaro.org,
	andriy.shevchenko@intel.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
	richard@nod.at, brendanhiggins@google.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vigneshr@ti.com,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	miquel.raynal@bootlin.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	masonccyang@mxic.com.tw, piotrs@cadence.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] mtd: rawnand: Add NAND controller support on Intel LGM SoC
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 09:02:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200417090234.059418f6@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <003fa549-08c5-5867-2b02-54b483c16465@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:21:39 +0800
"Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX"
<vadivel.muruganx.ramuthevar@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> Hi Boris,
> 
> On 16/4/2020 7:57 pm, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:38:03 +0800
> > "Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX"
> > <vadivel.muruganx.ramuthevar@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 16/4/2020 7:17 pm, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> >>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:40:53 +0800
> >>> "Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX"
> >>> <vadivel.muruganx.ramuthevar@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>>>>> we'll be happy to have one more of the existing driver converted to  
> >>>>>>> ->exec_op() ;-).  
> >>>>>> I have completely adapted to ->exec_op() hook up to replace the legacy
> >>>>>> call-back.  
> >>>>> I suspect porting what you've done to the xway driver shouldn't be too
> >>>>> complicated.  
> >>>> Not ported from xway_nand.c driver , we have developed from the scratch
> >>>> to make it work on
> >>>> Intel LGM SoC , it's new x86 ATOM based SoC, IP itself completely
> >>>> different and most of the registers won't match.
> >>>> if we port then it would be ugly and also what are the problem may occur
> >>>> we do not know.  
> >>> Sorry but IMO they look similar enough to try to merge them.  
> >> Thanks! Boris, need suggestion from you since you are maintainer and
> >> also expertise on mtd-subsystem.  
> > I *was* the maintainer :).
> >  
> >> There are different features involved and lines of code is more, if we
> >> add new driver patches over xway-nand driver  
> > How about retro-fitting the xway logic into your driver then? I mean,
> > adding a 100 lines of code to your driver to get rid of the 500+ lines
> > we have in xway_nand.c is still a win.
> >  
> >> is completely looks ugly and it may disturb the existing functionality
> >> as well since we don't have platform to validate:'(.  
> > How ugly? Can you show us? Maybe we can come with a solution to make it
> > less ugly.
> >
> > As for the testing part, there are 4 scenarios:
> >
> > 1/ Your changes work perfectly fine on older platforms. Yay \o/!
> > 2/ You break the xway driver and existing users notice it before this
> >     series gets merged. Now you found someone to validate your changes.
> > 3/ You break the xway driver and none of the existing users notice it
> >     before the driver is merged, but they notice it afterwards. Too bad
> >     this happened after we've merged the driver, but now you've found
> >     someone to help you fix the problem :P.
> > 4/ You break things for old platforms but no one ever complains about
> >     it, either because there's no users left or because they never
> >     update their kernels. In any case, that's no longer your problem.
> >     Someone will remove those old platforms one day and get rid of the
> >     unneeded code in the NAND driver.
> >
> > What's more likely to happen is #3 or #4, and I think the NAND
> > maintainer would be fine with both.
> >
> > Note that the NAND subsystem is full of unmaintained legacy drivers, so
> > every time we see someone who could help us get rid or update one of
> > them we have to take this opportunity.  
> Agreed!, Thank you very much for the suggestions and clear inputs.
> To proceed further, can you please share your inputs to dividing the tasks
> and patches to be sent if possible.

Let's start with the new version you were about to post. We'll see how
we can merge both drivers based on that.

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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-14  2:24 [PATCH v1 0/2] mtd: rawnand: Add NAND controller support on Intel LGM SoC Ramuthevar,Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-14  2:24 ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-14  2:24 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] dt-bindings: mtd: Add YAML for Nand Flash Controller support Ramuthevar,Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-14  2:24   ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-14  7:04   ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-14  7:04     ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-15  1:51     ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-15  1:51       ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-14  2:24 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] mtd: rawnand: Add NAND controller support on Intel LGM SoC Ramuthevar,Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-14  2:24   ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-14  7:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-14  7:21     ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-15  6:01     ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-15  6:01       ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-15 22:05   ` Martin Blumenstingl
2020-04-15 22:05     ` Martin Blumenstingl
2020-04-16  9:35     ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-16  9:35       ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-16  9:38       ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16  9:38         ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16  9:45         ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-16  9:45           ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-16 10:26           ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16 10:26             ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16 10:40             ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-16 10:40               ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-16 11:17               ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16 11:17                 ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16 11:32                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-04-16 11:32                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-04-17  5:10                   ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-17  5:10                     ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
     [not found]                 ` <de9f50b8-9215-d294-9914-e49701552185@linux.intel.com>
2020-04-16 11:57                   ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16 11:57                     ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16 12:26                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-04-16 12:26                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-04-16 12:40                       ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16 12:40                         ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-16 13:20                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 13:20                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 13:51                           ` John Crispin
2020-04-16 13:51                             ` John Crispin
2020-04-20  1:09                           ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-20  1:09                             ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-16 18:08                     ` Martin Blumenstingl
2020-04-16 18:08                       ` Martin Blumenstingl
2020-04-17  5:21                     ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-17  5:21                       ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-17  7:02                       ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2020-04-17  7:02                         ` Boris Brezillon
2020-04-17  7:53                         ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX
2020-04-17  7:53                           ` Ramuthevar, Vadivel MuruganX

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