From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, "iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>, "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Alex Williamson (alex.williamson@redhat.com)" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>, "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, "Wu, Hao" <hao.wu@intel.com>, "Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>, Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>, Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>, Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> Subject: Re: [RFC] /dev/ioasid uAPI proposal Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 08:52:24 -0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20210603115224.GQ1002214@nvidia.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <YLhlCINGPGob4Nld@yekko> On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 03:13:44PM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > We can still consider it a single "address space" from the IOMMU > > perspective. What has happened is that the address table is not just a > > 64 bit IOVA, but an extended ~80 bit IOVA formed by "PASID, IOVA". > > True. This does complexify how we represent what IOVA ranges are > valid, though. I'll bet you most implementations don't actually > implement a full 64-bit IOVA, which means we effectively have a large > number of windows from (0..max IOVA) for each valid pasid. This adds > another reason I don't think my concept of IOVA windows is just a > power specific thing. Yes Things rapidly get into weird hardware specific stuff though, the request will be for things like: "ARM PASID&IO page table format from SMMU IP block vXX" Which may have a bunch of (possibly very weird!) format specific data to describe and/or configure it. The uAPI needs to be suitably general here. :( > > If we are already going in the direction of having the IOASID specify > > the page table format and other details, specifying that the page > > tabnle format is the 80 bit "PASID, IOVA" format is a fairly small > > step. > > Well, rather I think userspace needs to request what page table format > it wants and the kernel tells it whether it can oblige or not. Yes, this is what I ment. Jason
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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, "Alex Williamson \(alex.williamson@redhat.com\)" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>, "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>, "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>, "iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>, "Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [RFC] /dev/ioasid uAPI proposal Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 08:52:24 -0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20210603115224.GQ1002214@nvidia.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <YLhlCINGPGob4Nld@yekko> On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 03:13:44PM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > We can still consider it a single "address space" from the IOMMU > > perspective. What has happened is that the address table is not just a > > 64 bit IOVA, but an extended ~80 bit IOVA formed by "PASID, IOVA". > > True. This does complexify how we represent what IOVA ranges are > valid, though. I'll bet you most implementations don't actually > implement a full 64-bit IOVA, which means we effectively have a large > number of windows from (0..max IOVA) for each valid pasid. This adds > another reason I don't think my concept of IOVA windows is just a > power specific thing. Yes Things rapidly get into weird hardware specific stuff though, the request will be for things like: "ARM PASID&IO page table format from SMMU IP block vXX" Which may have a bunch of (possibly very weird!) format specific data to describe and/or configure it. The uAPI needs to be suitably general here. :( > > If we are already going in the direction of having the IOASID specify > > the page table format and other details, specifying that the page > > tabnle format is the 80 bit "PASID, IOVA" format is a fairly small > > step. > > Well, rather I think userspace needs to request what page table format > it wants and the kernel tells it whether it can oblige or not. Yes, this is what I ment. Jason _______________________________________________ iommu mailing list iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/iommu
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