From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 09:50:35 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FFC46EB.9050201@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3ad50tmlq.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org
Andi Kleen wrote:
>
> I personally would be in favour of doing it all in the kernel because
> autofs3 and autofs4 are not fully compatible and break in subtle ways
> when not matching and in my experience when you have autofs3 compiled
> into the kernel the system happens to have an autofs 4 daemon
> installed and vice versa. Doing it in the kernel would avoid this
> nasty dependency problem.
>
"Don't do that then." Really. Originally the autofs v3 filesystem was
called "autofs" and the autofs v4 filesystem was called "autofs4" and
the intent was that you should *never* run them across versions.
Jeremy tried nevertheless to be compatible (mistake #1) and Linus then
renamed the autofs4 filesystem "autofs" (mistake #2). There was no good
reason for this and it should never have happened -- it broke the design
that was intended to make sure the above wasn't going to be a problem.
> Also when /home or other important fs are mounted via autofs there is
> not much practical difference between a hung kernel and a hung
> daemon. You have to reboot the system anyways.
a) Guess which one is easier to debug?
b) Do people around here really believe that putting things in the
kernel magically makes them work right?
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-07 17:51 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <1b6CO-3v0-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-07 4:21 ` [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs Andi Kleen
2004-01-07 17:50 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2004-01-07 21:04 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 21:11 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-07 23:40 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-01-07 21:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-01-07 23:47 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 23:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-01-12 16:57 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13 7:39 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 19:32 trond.myklebust
2004-01-08 19:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 20:08 ` trond.myklebust
2004-01-08 21:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 22:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-01-08 22:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 20:37 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:52 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:16 ` Mike Waychison
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-06 23:34 Ogden, Aaron A.
2004-01-06 23:47 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:28 Ogden, Aaron A.
2004-01-06 22:41 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-06 22:47 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:53 ` Paul Raines
2004-01-07 23:14 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-07 23:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 12:52 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:52 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 18:31 ` viro
2004-01-09 18:43 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 19:41 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 19:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:31 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 19:55 Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:01 ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 21:44 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:50 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:17 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <20040106221502.GA7398@hockin.org>
2004-01-06 22:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 16:19 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 17:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:13 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 21:14 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-07 22:55 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 12:00 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 15:39 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 18:20 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 20:06 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-10 5:43 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-12 13:07 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-12 16:01 ` raven
2004-01-12 16:26 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-12 22:50 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-12 23:28 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13 1:30 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-12 16:28 ` raven
2004-01-12 16:58 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13 1:54 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-13 19:01 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-14 15:58 ` raven
2004-01-13 18:46 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:51 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-10 5:56 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 17:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 19:41 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 23:42 ` Michael Clark
2004-01-09 20:28 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:43 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 18:32 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 20:52 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-10 6:05 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:29 ` Olivier Galibert
2004-01-08 13:20 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-01-08 16:23 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 12:35 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 13:08 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 18:20 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-08 21:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 0:48 ` Ian Kent
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