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From: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
To: Mike Waychison <Michael.Waychison@Sun.COM>
Cc: Jim Carter <jimc@math.ucla.edu>,
	autofs mailing list <autofs@linux.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:43:13 +0800 (WST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0401101325280.2403-100000@wombat.indigo.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FFF09D9.40909@sun.com>

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Mike Waychison wrote:

>
> > Indeed, I
> >haven't solved my requirement of a transparent autofs filesystem aka.
> >Solaris automounter again. A difficult problem that will require
> >considerable effort.
> >
> >
> >
> What do you mean by this?  Something that doesn't show up in
> /proc/mounts?  I don't see this as much of an issue..  On any decently
> large machine, there are so many entries anyway that /etc/mtab and
> /proc/mounts become humanly unparseable anyhow.

Transparency of an autofs filesystem (as I'm calling it) is the situation
where, given a map

/usr	/man1	server:/usr/man1
	/man2	server:/usr/man2

where the filesystem /usr contains, say a directory lib, that needs to be
available while also seeing the automounted directories.

>
> >>>Mmm. The vfsmount_lock is available to modules in 2.6. At least it was in
> >>>test11. I'm sure I compiled the module under 2.6 as well???
> >>>
> >>>I thought that, taking the dcache_lock was the correct thing to do when
> >>>traversing a dentry list?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Walking dentrys still takes the dcache_lock, however walking vfsmounts
> >>takes the vfsmount_lock.  dcache_lock is no longer used for fast path
> >>walking either (to the best of my understanding).
> >>
> >>find . -name '*.[ch]' -not -path '*SCCS*' | xargs grep vfsmount_lock |
> >>grep EXPORT
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Strange. How does the module compile I wonder? How does it load without
> >unresolved symbols? Another little mystery to work on.
> >
> >
> >
> No, you're module doesn't use vfsmount_lock.  At least the module in
> autofs4-2.4-module-20031201.tar.gz doesn't.

This is the 2.4 code. I do (or though I was able to) use the vfsmount_lock
in the 2.6 patches I have in
kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/raven/autofs4-2.6. This is bad for me.

>
> >>The raciness comes from the fact that we now support the lazy-mounting
> >>of multimount offsets using embedded direct mounts.  Autofs4 mounts all
> >>(or as much as it can) from the multimount all together, and unmounts it
> >>all on expiry.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >But 4.1 does lazy mount for several maps. Mounts that are triggered
> >during the umount step of the expire are put on a wait queue along with
> >the task requesting the umount. I think autofs always worked that way.
> >
> >
> >
> This isn't lazy mounting per se.  If you are talking about autofs4's use
> of AUTOFS_INF_EXPIRING, it's there to prevent somebody from walking into
> a multimount while it is expiring.

Or any umount when sending the expire request to userspace.




  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-10  5:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-06 19:55 [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 19:55 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:01 ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 21:01   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 21:44   ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:44     ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 21:50   ` [autofs] " Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 21:50     ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:06     ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:06       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:17       ` [autofs] " Tim Hockin
     [not found]       ` <20040106221502.GA7398@hockin.org>
2004-01-06 22:20         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:20           ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 16:19           ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 16:19             ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 17:55             ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:13               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-06 22:28       ` name spaces good (was: [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs) Dax Kelson
2004-01-06 22:48         ` name spaces good H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 22:48           ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:14 ` [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs Jim Carter
2004-01-07 21:14   ` Jim Carter
2004-01-07 22:55   ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 22:55     ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 12:00     ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:00       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 15:39       ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 18:20         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 18:20           ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 20:06           ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:06             ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-10  5:43             ` Ian Kent [this message]
2004-01-12 13:07               ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-12 16:01                 ` raven
2004-01-12 16:26                   ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-12 22:50                     ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-12 23:28                       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  1:30                       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-13  1:30                         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-12 16:28                   ` [autofs] " raven
2004-01-12 16:58                     ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  1:54                       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-13  1:54                         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-13 19:01                         ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-13 19:01                           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-14 15:58                           ` [autofs] " raven
2004-01-14 19:32                             ` running out of mount points Greg Bradner
2004-01-19 15:48                               ` Greg Bradner
2004-01-19 17:11                                 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-19 19:07                                   ` Greg Bradner
2004-01-20 19:15                                 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-13 18:46                   ` [autofs] [RFC] Towards a Modern Autofs Mike Waychison
2004-01-13 18:46                     ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:51           ` [autofs] " Jim Carter
2004-01-09 20:51             ` Jim Carter
2004-01-10  5:56             ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-08 17:34       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 19:41         ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 23:42         ` Michael Clark
2004-01-09 20:28           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:28             ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:54             ` [autofs] " H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 20:54               ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:43               ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:43                 ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 18:32         ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-09 18:32           ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 20:52           ` [autofs] " Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:52             ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-10  6:05             ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:29     ` Olivier Galibert
2004-01-08 13:20       ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-01-08 16:23       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-08 12:35     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 13:08       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 18:20     ` Jim Carter
2004-01-08 21:01       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08  0:48   ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08  0:48     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-06 22:28 [autofs] " Ogden, Aaron A.
2004-01-06 22:41 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-06 22:47 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-06 22:53 ` Paul Raines
2004-01-07 23:14 ` Jim Carter
2004-01-07 23:32   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 12:52     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 12:52       ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 18:31       ` viro
2004-01-09 18:43         ` Ian Kent
2004-01-09 19:41         ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 19:57           ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:31             ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:36               ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-06 23:34 Ogden, Aaron A.
2004-01-06 23:47 ` Tim Hockin
     [not found] <1b5GC-29h-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1b6CO-3v0-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-07  4:21   ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-07 17:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-07 21:04       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 21:11         ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-07 23:40           ` Jesper Juhl
2004-01-07 21:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-01-07 23:47           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-07 23:56             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-01-12 16:57               ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-13  7:39                 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 19:32 trond.myklebust
2004-01-08 19:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 20:08   ` trond.myklebust
2004-01-08 21:13     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-08 22:20       ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-01-08 22:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 20:37       ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 21:02         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-01-09 21:52           ` Mike Waychison
2004-01-09 20:16   ` Mike Waychison

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