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From: LiuShuo <b35362@freescale.com>
To: Matthieu CASTET <matthieu.castet@parrot.com>
Cc: Li Yang-R58472 <r58472@freescale.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	Ivan Djelic <ivan.djelic@parrot.com>,
	"dwmw2@infradead.org" <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:57:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E53798D.7050307@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E53614E.2070103@parrot.com>

=E4=BA=8E 2011=E5=B9=B408=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=A5 16:14, Matthieu CASTET =E5=86=
=99=E9=81=93:
> LiuShuo a =C3=A9crit :
>> =E4=BA=8E 2011=E5=B9=B408=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=A5 00:19, Scott Wood =E5=86=
=99=E9=81=93:
>>> On 08/22/2011 11:13 AM, Matthieu CASTET wrote:
>>>> Scott Wood a =C3=A9crit :
>>>>> To eliminate it we'd need to do an extra data transfer without reis=
suing
>>>>> the command, which Shuo was unable to get to work.
>>>>>
>>>> That's weird because our controller seems quite flexible [1].
>>>>
>>>> Something like that should work ?
>>>>
>>>>               out_be32(&lbc->fir,
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_CM2<<   FIR_OP0_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_CA<<   FIR_OP1_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_PA<<   FIR_OP2_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_WB<<   FIR_OP3_SHIFT));
>>>> refill FCM buffer with next 2k data
>>>>
>>>>               out_be32(&lbc->fir,
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_WB<<   FIR_OP3_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_CM3<<   FIR_OP4_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_CW1<<   FIR_OP5_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_RS<<   FIR_OP6_SHIFT));
>>> Something like that is what I originally suggested, but Shuo said it
>>> didn't work (even in theory, it requires a CE-don't-care NAND chip,
>>> since bus atomicity is broken).
>>>
>>> Shuo, what specifically did you try, and what did you see happen?
>>>
>>> -Scott
>> First, if we want to read 4K data with once command issuing, we can't
>> use HW_ECC.
> Yes, but as ivan said doesn't the cost of 2 read isn't bigger than soft=
ware ecc ?
>
>> Even if we use SW_ECC, we always get lots of weird '0xFF's between 1st
>> 2k and 2nd 2k data.
> Did you understand where those 0xff comes (what's the size of them. Doe=
sn't the
> controller try to insert spare aera ?)
I don't understand. I set FBCR to 2048, the controller will read the=20
main area without spare area.
But the size of them is nearly spare area size( more or less a few bytes)=
.
I can't guess the behavior of the controller then, so I select another wa=
y.

Could you try to do it and explain how those 0xff comes ?
> Could you detail the sequence you used ?
>
First half :
                   out_be32(&lbc->fbcr, 2048);
                   out_be32(&lbc->fir,
                            (FIR_OP_CM0 << FIR_OP0_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_CA << FIR_OP1_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_PA << FIR_OP2_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_CM1 << FIR_OP3_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_RBW << FIR_OP4_SHIFT));


Sencond half :
                 out_be32(&lbc->fbcr, 2048);
                 out_be32(&lbc->fir,
                            (FIR_OP_RB << FIR_OP0_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_RBW << FIR_OP1_SHIFT));


-Liu Shuo

> Matthieu
>
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: LiuShuo <b35362@freescale.com>
To: Matthieu CASTET <matthieu.castet@parrot.com>
Cc: Li Yang-R58472 <r58472@freescale.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	Ivan Djelic <ivan.djelic@parrot.com>,
	"dwmw2@infradead.org" <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:57:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E53798D.7050307@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E53614E.2070103@parrot.com>

于 2011年08月23日 16:14, Matthieu CASTET 写道:
> LiuShuo a écrit :
>> 于 2011年08月23日 00:19, Scott Wood 写道:
>>> On 08/22/2011 11:13 AM, Matthieu CASTET wrote:
>>>> Scott Wood a écrit :
>>>>> To eliminate it we'd need to do an extra data transfer without reissuing
>>>>> the command, which Shuo was unable to get to work.
>>>>>
>>>> That's weird because our controller seems quite flexible [1].
>>>>
>>>> Something like that should work ?
>>>>
>>>>               out_be32(&lbc->fir,
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_CM2<<   FIR_OP0_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_CA<<   FIR_OP1_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_PA<<   FIR_OP2_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_WB<<   FIR_OP3_SHIFT));
>>>> refill FCM buffer with next 2k data
>>>>
>>>>               out_be32(&lbc->fir,
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_WB<<   FIR_OP3_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_CM3<<   FIR_OP4_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_CW1<<   FIR_OP5_SHIFT) |
>>>>                        (FIR_OP_RS<<   FIR_OP6_SHIFT));
>>> Something like that is what I originally suggested, but Shuo said it
>>> didn't work (even in theory, it requires a CE-don't-care NAND chip,
>>> since bus atomicity is broken).
>>>
>>> Shuo, what specifically did you try, and what did you see happen?
>>>
>>> -Scott
>> First, if we want to read 4K data with once command issuing, we can't
>> use HW_ECC.
> Yes, but as ivan said doesn't the cost of 2 read isn't bigger than software ecc ?
>
>> Even if we use SW_ECC, we always get lots of weird '0xFF's between 1st
>> 2k and 2nd 2k data.
> Did you understand where those 0xff comes (what's the size of them. Doesn't the
> controller try to insert spare aera ?)
I don't understand. I set FBCR to 2048, the controller will read the 
main area without spare area.
But the size of them is nearly spare area size( more or less a few bytes).
I can't guess the behavior of the controller then, so I select another way.

Could you try to do it and explain how those 0xff comes ?
> Could you detail the sequence you used ?
>
First half :
                   out_be32(&lbc->fbcr, 2048);
                   out_be32(&lbc->fir,
                            (FIR_OP_CM0 << FIR_OP0_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_CA << FIR_OP1_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_PA << FIR_OP2_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_CM1 << FIR_OP3_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_RBW << FIR_OP4_SHIFT));


Sencond half :
                 out_be32(&lbc->fbcr, 2048);
                 out_be32(&lbc->fir,
                            (FIR_OP_RB << FIR_OP0_SHIFT) |
                            (FIR_OP_RBW << FIR_OP1_SHIFT));


-Liu Shuo

> Matthieu
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-23  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-18  2:33 [PATCH v3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip b35362
2011-08-18  2:33 ` b35362
2011-08-18 16:25 ` Scott Wood
2011-08-18 18:27   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-23  8:37   ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23  8:37     ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23 10:02     ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-23 16:12       ` Scott Wood
2011-08-23 16:12         ` Scott Wood
2011-08-25 11:18         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-08-24  2:48       ` LiuShuo
2011-08-24  2:48         ` LiuShuo
2011-08-25 11:25         ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-09-01  9:41           ` LiuShuo
2011-09-01  9:41             ` LiuShuo
2011-09-01 22:30             ` Scott Wood
2011-08-18 17:00 ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-18 17:00   ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-18 18:24   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-18 18:24     ` Scott Wood
2011-08-19  3:20   ` LiuShuo
2011-08-19  3:20     ` LiuShuo
2011-08-19  8:57     ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-19  8:57       ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-19 18:10       ` Scott Wood
2011-08-19 18:10         ` Scott Wood
2011-08-22 10:58         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-08-22 15:25           ` Ivan Djelic
2011-08-22 16:04             ` Scott Wood
2011-08-22 16:13               ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-22 16:19                 ` Scott Wood
2011-08-22 16:19                   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-22 17:05                   ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-23  3:09                   ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23  3:09                     ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23  8:14                     ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-23  9:57                       ` LiuShuo [this message]
2011-08-23  9:57                         ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23 10:13                         ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-22 15:58           ` Scott Wood
2011-08-25 11:06             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-08-22 10:53 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-08-22 10:53   ` Artem Bityutskiy

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