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From: LiuShuo <b35362@freescale.com>
To: Matthieu CASTET <matthieu.castet@parrot.com>
Cc: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	"dwmw2@infradead.org" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Li Yang-R58472 <r58472@freescale.com>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:48:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E546672.3070100@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E537AC4.6000301@parrot.com>

=E4=BA=8E 2011=E5=B9=B408=E6=9C=8823=E6=97=A5 18:02, Matthieu CASTET =E5=86=
=99=E9=81=93:
> LiuShuo a =C3=A9crit :
>> =E4=BA=8E 2011=E5=B9=B408=E6=9C=8819=E6=97=A5 00:25, Scott Wood =E5=86=
=99=E9=81=93:
>>> On 08/17/2011 09:33 PM, b35362@freescale.com wrote:
>>>> From: Liu Shuo<b35362@freescale.com>
>>>>
>>>> Freescale FCM controller has a 2K size limitation of buffer RAM. In =
order
>>>> to support the Nand flash chip whose page size is larger than 2K byt=
es,
>>>> we divide a page into multi-2K pages for MTD layer driver. In that c=
ase,
>>>> we force to set the page size to 2K bytes. We convert the page addre=
ss of
>>>> MTD layer driver to a real page address in flash chips and a column =
index
>>>> in fsl_elbc driver. We can issue any column address by UA instructio=
n of
>>>> elbc controller.
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: Due to there is a limitation of 'Number of Partial Program Cyc=
les in
>>>> the Same Page (NOP)', the flash chip which is supported by this work=
around
>>>> have to meet below conditions.
>>>> 	1. page size is not greater than 4KB
>>>> 	2.	1) if main area and spare area have independent NOPs:
>>>> 			  main  area NOP    :>=3D3
>>>> 			  spare area NOP    :>=3D2?
>>> How often are the NOPs split like this?
>>>
>>>> 		2) if main area and spare area have a common NOP:
>>>> 			  NOP               :>=3D4
>>> This depends on how the flash is used.  If you treat it as a NOP1 fla=
sh
>>> (e.g. run ubifs rather than jffs2), then you need NOP2 for a 4K chip =
and
>>> NOP4 for an 8K chip.  OTOH, if you would be making full use of NOP4 o=
n a
>>> real 2K chip, you'll need NOP8 for a 4K chip.
>>>
>>> The NOP restrictions should be documented in the code itself, not jus=
t
>>> in the git changelog.  Maybe print it to the console when this hack i=
s
>>> used, along with the NOP value read from the ID.
>> We can't read the NOP from the ID on any chip. Some chips don't
>> give this infomation.(e.g. Micron MT29F4G08BAC)
> Doesn't the micron chip provide it with onfi info ?
Sorry, there is something wrong with my expression.
We can get the NOP info from datasheet, but can't get it by READID=20
command in code.

-LiuShuo
> Matthieu
>

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From: LiuShuo <b35362@freescale.com>
To: Matthieu CASTET <matthieu.castet@parrot.com>
Cc: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	"dwmw2@infradead.org" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Li Yang-R58472 <r58472@freescale.com>,
	"linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:48:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E546672.3070100@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E537AC4.6000301@parrot.com>

于 2011年08月23日 18:02, Matthieu CASTET 写道:
> LiuShuo a écrit :
>> 于 2011年08月19日 00:25, Scott Wood 写道:
>>> On 08/17/2011 09:33 PM, b35362@freescale.com wrote:
>>>> From: Liu Shuo<b35362@freescale.com>
>>>>
>>>> Freescale FCM controller has a 2K size limitation of buffer RAM. In order
>>>> to support the Nand flash chip whose page size is larger than 2K bytes,
>>>> we divide a page into multi-2K pages for MTD layer driver. In that case,
>>>> we force to set the page size to 2K bytes. We convert the page address of
>>>> MTD layer driver to a real page address in flash chips and a column index
>>>> in fsl_elbc driver. We can issue any column address by UA instruction of
>>>> elbc controller.
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: Due to there is a limitation of 'Number of Partial Program Cycles in
>>>> the Same Page (NOP)', the flash chip which is supported by this workaround
>>>> have to meet below conditions.
>>>> 	1. page size is not greater than 4KB
>>>> 	2.	1) if main area and spare area have independent NOPs:
>>>> 			  main  area NOP    :>=3
>>>> 			  spare area NOP    :>=2?
>>> How often are the NOPs split like this?
>>>
>>>> 		2) if main area and spare area have a common NOP:
>>>> 			  NOP               :>=4
>>> This depends on how the flash is used.  If you treat it as a NOP1 flash
>>> (e.g. run ubifs rather than jffs2), then you need NOP2 for a 4K chip and
>>> NOP4 for an 8K chip.  OTOH, if you would be making full use of NOP4 on a
>>> real 2K chip, you'll need NOP8 for a 4K chip.
>>>
>>> The NOP restrictions should be documented in the code itself, not just
>>> in the git changelog.  Maybe print it to the console when this hack is
>>> used, along with the NOP value read from the ID.
>> We can't read the NOP from the ID on any chip. Some chips don't
>> give this infomation.(e.g. Micron MT29F4G08BAC)
> Doesn't the micron chip provide it with onfi info ?
Sorry, there is something wrong with my expression.
We can get the NOP info from datasheet, but can't get it by READID 
command in code.

-LiuShuo
> Matthieu
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-24  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-18  2:33 [PATCH v3] mtd/nand : workaround for Freescale FCM to support large-page Nand chip b35362
2011-08-18  2:33 ` b35362
2011-08-18 16:25 ` Scott Wood
2011-08-18 18:27   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-23  8:37   ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23  8:37     ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23 10:02     ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-23 16:12       ` Scott Wood
2011-08-23 16:12         ` Scott Wood
2011-08-25 11:18         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-08-24  2:48       ` LiuShuo [this message]
2011-08-24  2:48         ` LiuShuo
2011-08-25 11:25         ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-09-01  9:41           ` LiuShuo
2011-09-01  9:41             ` LiuShuo
2011-09-01 22:30             ` Scott Wood
2011-08-18 17:00 ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-18 17:00   ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-18 18:24   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-18 18:24     ` Scott Wood
2011-08-19  3:20   ` LiuShuo
2011-08-19  3:20     ` LiuShuo
2011-08-19  8:57     ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-19  8:57       ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-19 18:10       ` Scott Wood
2011-08-19 18:10         ` Scott Wood
2011-08-22 10:58         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-08-22 15:25           ` Ivan Djelic
2011-08-22 16:04             ` Scott Wood
2011-08-22 16:13               ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-22 16:19                 ` Scott Wood
2011-08-22 16:19                   ` Scott Wood
2011-08-22 17:05                   ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-23  3:09                   ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23  3:09                     ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23  8:14                     ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-23  9:57                       ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23  9:57                         ` LiuShuo
2011-08-23 10:13                         ` Matthieu CASTET
2011-08-22 15:58           ` Scott Wood
2011-08-25 11:06             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-08-22 10:53 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-08-22 10:53   ` Artem Bityutskiy

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