Linpac on Raspberry Pi

Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[Ray Wells]

Over on the RPi list questions are being asked about a packet terminal 
program for the RPi to satisfy a mild renewal of interest in connected 
mode packet. As a one-time user of Linpac I decided to try to compile it 
on the Pi but have run into problems with header files, with vector.h 
being the one that is stumping further progress. I haven't so far found 
a Debian package that provides vector.h. I've tried to compile both 0.16 
and 0.17-pre with similar results.

I found an email in my archives from David Ranch, dated 21-09-12 in 
which reference was made to someone running Linpac "with great results". 
David is listed as the maintainer.

Is anyone here, and specifically David, able to shed any light on the 
problem?

Ray vk2tv

Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[David Ranch]

Hello Ray,

I'm actively working on (finally) releasing a new version of Linpac but 
Autoconf has been a challenge.  I received some great help from the 
Xastir folks but have a little more to go.  Anyway, I have your "vector" 
and other issues have already been solved with these new patches and I 
should be able to give you a hand.  I do plan on releasing a .debs in 
the future but until then, try this for non-RPM based systems:


# 0 - Your dependencies will be gcc, perl, ncurses-libs, libax25, and 
ax25mail-utils
#    All compiling details can be found here: 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11.linpac

# 1 - I highly advise you do NOT compile things on your Rpi's SD card - 
it will wear it out.  Do all your compiling
# via an NFS mount or an attached USB hard drive , etc.

# 2 - Get the sources (please note that the Ncurses based Linpac is the 
one I've been focusing so far)
cd <your high-write cycle destination path>
wget 
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/linpac/LinPac-unstable/0.17pre3/LinPac-0.17pre3.tar.gz

# 3 - Uncompress Linpac
tar xzvf LinPac-0.17pre3.tar.gz

#4 - Get all the required patches
cd LinPac-0.17pre3
wget -r -l1 --no-parent --no-directories -Alinpac0* 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/

#5 - Apply the patches
patch -p0 < linpac0-digi-length.diff
patch -p0 < linpac0-pcskprsnd.diff
patch -p0 < linpac0-compile-fixes.diff
patch -p0 < linpac0-compile-fixes2.diff

#6 - Configure and build it
./configure --prefix=/usr
make

The compiler is still throwing warnings but it builds ok on Centos6.5 
today.  I would appreciate any feedback on how to clean up the warnings 
as I'd like to get a 100% clean build before I post this new version on 
SF.net.

#7 - Configure it up by reading the included manual.html documentation 
and 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11a.linpacconfig


PS.  I'm not on the Rpi list but if you would, please cross-post this 
response over there as well.  I'd love to get more users on Linpac and 
get some additional developers on board!


--David
KI6ZHD



> Over on the RPi list questions are being asked about a packet terminal 
> program for the RPi to satisfy a mild renewal of interest in connected 
> mode packet. As a one-time user of Linpac I decided to try to compile 
> it on the Pi but have run into problems with header files, with 
> vector.h being the one that is stumping further progress. I haven't so 
> far found a Debian package that provides vector.h. I've tried to 
> compile both 0.16 and 0.17-pre with similar results.
>
> I found an email in my archives from David Ranch, dated 21-09-12 in 
> which reference was made to someone running Linpac "with great 
> results". David is listed as the maintainer.
>
> Is anyone here, and specifically David, able to shed any light on the 
> problem?

Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[Ray Wells]

Hi David,

Thanks for the reply and the information. This is great news.

#0 I didn't realise that ax25mail-utils was a dependency because the 
documentation talks about getting mail as being optional. I've met the 
other requirements.
#1 On this particular occasion I'm not concerned about the SD card 
wearing out but I take your point. It's convenient at the moment to wear 
out the card.
#2 I also have concentrated on the curses version. An attempt with the 
Java version quite some years back failed and I walked away from it. 
Besides, the curses version fits well with headless operation of the RPi.

I'll get and apply the patches and see what happens next. Another member 
of the RPi list, Tom SP2LOB is also running with this project.

I'm not a programmer or a developer but my twenty years of Debian has 
taught me what some of the compile errors mean, even if I can't resolve 
them <grin>

Thanks, David.

Ray vk2tv

On 15/02/14 04:08, David Ranch wrote:
>
> Hello Ray,
>
> I'm actively working on (finally) releasing a new version of Linpac 
> but Autoconf has been a challenge.  I received some great help from 
> the Xastir folks but have a little more to go.  Anyway, I have your 
> "vector" and other issues have already been solved with these new 
> patches and I should be able to give you a hand.  I do plan on 
> releasing a .debs in the future but until then, try this for non-RPM 
> based systems:
>
>
> # 0 - Your dependencies will be gcc, perl, ncurses-libs, libax25, and 
> ax25mail-utils
> #    All compiling details can be found here: 
> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11.linpac
>
> # 1 - I highly advise you do NOT compile things on your Rpi's SD card 
> - it will wear it out.  Do all your compiling
> # via an NFS mount or an attached USB hard drive , etc.
>
> # 2 - Get the sources (please note that the Ncurses based Linpac is 
> the one I've been focusing so far)
> cd <your high-write cycle destination path>
> wget 
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/linpac/LinPac-unstable/0.17pre3/LinPac-0.17pre3.tar.gz
>
> # 3 - Uncompress Linpac
> tar xzvf LinPac-0.17pre3.tar.gz
>
> #4 - Get all the required patches
> cd LinPac-0.17pre3
> wget -r -l1 --no-parent --no-directories -Alinpac0* 
> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/
>
> #5 - Apply the patches
> patch -p0 < linpac0-digi-length.diff
> patch -p0 < linpac0-pcskprsnd.diff
> patch -p0 < linpac0-compile-fixes.diff
> patch -p0 < linpac0-compile-fixes2.diff
>
> #6 - Configure and build it
> ./configure --prefix=/usr
> make
>
> The compiler is still throwing warnings but it builds ok on Centos6.5 
> today.  I would appreciate any feedback on how to clean up the 
> warnings as I'd like to get a 100% clean build before I post this new 
> version on SF.net.
>
> #7 - Configure it up by reading the included manual.html documentation 
> and 
> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11a.linpacconfig
>
>
> PS.  I'm not on the Rpi list but if you would, please cross-post this 
> response over there as well.  I'd love to get more users on Linpac and 
> get some additional developers on board!
>
>
> --David
> KI6ZHD
>
>
>
>> Over on the RPi list questions are being asked about a packet 
>> terminal program for the RPi to satisfy a mild renewal of interest in 
>> connected mode packet. As a one-time user of Linpac I decided to try 
>> to compile it on the Pi but have run into problems with header files, 
>> with vector.h being the one that is stumping further progress. I 
>> haven't so far found a Debian package that provides vector.h. I've 
>> tried to compile both 0.16 and 0.17-pre with similar results.
>>
>> I found an email in my archives from David Ranch, dated 21-09-12 in 
>> which reference was made to someone running Linpac "with great 
>> results". David is listed as the maintainer.
>>
>> Is anyone here, and specifically David, able to shed any light on the 
>> problem?
>
>

Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[Ray Wells]

David,

A correction on what I previously wrote about meeting dependencies. 
ncurses-libs is not in the Debian repositories. In Debian I use 
libncurses5-dev to meet dependencies when compiling kernel ax25 and I've 
not yet had any curses header errors with Linpac. I'm guessing 
libncurses5-dev provides the headers provided by ncurse-libs in RPM 
based systems. Right/wrong???

Ray vk2tv


On 15/02/14 08:47, Ray Wells wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Thanks for the reply and the information. This is great news.
>
> #0 I didn't realise that ax25mail-utils was a dependency because the 
> documentation talks about getting mail as being optional. I've met the 
> other requirements.
> #1 On this particular occasion I'm not concerned about the SD card 
> wearing out but I take your point. It's convenient at the moment to 
> wear out the card.
> #2 I also have concentrated on the curses version. An attempt with the 
> Java version quite some years back failed and I walked away from it. 
> Besides, the curses version fits well with headless operation of the RPi.
>
> I'll get and apply the patches and see what happens next. Another 
> member of the RPi list, Tom SP2LOB is also running with this project.
>
> I'm not a programmer or a developer but my twenty years of Debian has 
> taught me what some of the compile errors mean, even if I can't 
> resolve them <grin>
>
> Thanks, David.
>
> Ray vk2tv
>
> On 15/02/14 04:08, David Ranch wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ray,
>>
>> I'm actively working on (finally) releasing a new version of Linpac 
>> but Autoconf has been a challenge.  I received some great help from 
>> the Xastir folks but have a little more to go. Anyway, I have your 
>> "vector" and other issues have already been solved with these new 
>> patches and I should be able to give you a hand.  I do plan on 
>> releasing a .debs in the future but until then, try this for non-RPM 
>> based systems:
>>
>>
>> # 0 - Your dependencies will be gcc, perl, ncurses-libs, libax25, and 
>> ax25mail-utils
>> #    All compiling details can be found here: 
>> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11.linpac

Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[David Ranch]

Hello Ray,

This is a classic example of why maintaining software is difficult in 
Linux.. everyone distro seems to want a different name for the same 
package.  Regardless, what you have on your Rpi seems Ok.

I'll try compiling it on my Rpi too (it's running F6BVP's version of 
Raspian which is based on Wheezy).

--David



On 02/14/2014 03:53 PM, Ray Wells wrote:
> David,
>
> A correction on what I previously wrote about meeting dependencies.
> ncurses-libs is not in the Debian repositories. In Debian I use
> libncurses5-dev to meet dependencies when compiling kernel ax25 and I've
> not yet had any curses header errors with Linpac. I'm guessing
> libncurses5-dev provides the headers provided by ncurse-libs in RPM
> based systems. Right/wrong???
>
> Ray vk2tv
>
>
> On 15/02/14 08:47, Ray Wells wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply and the information. This is great news.
>>
>> #0 I didn't realise that ax25mail-utils was a dependency because the
>> documentation talks about getting mail as being optional. I've met the
>> other requirements.
>> #1 On this particular occasion I'm not concerned about the SD card
>> wearing out but I take your point. It's convenient at the moment to
>> wear out the card.
>> #2 I also have concentrated on the curses version. An attempt with the
>> Java version quite some years back failed and I walked away from it.
>> Besides, the curses version fits well with headless operation of the RPi.
>>
>> I'll get and apply the patches and see what happens next. Another
>> member of the RPi list, Tom SP2LOB is also running with this project.
>>
>> I'm not a programmer or a developer but my twenty years of Debian has
>> taught me what some of the compile errors mean, even if I can't
>> resolve them <grin>
>>
>> Thanks, David.
>>
>> Ray vk2tv
>>
>> On 15/02/14 04:08, David Ranch wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Ray,
>>>
>>> I'm actively working on (finally) releasing a new version of Linpac
>>> but Autoconf has been a challenge.  I received some great help from
>>> the Xastir folks but have a little more to go. Anyway, I have your
>>> "vector" and other issues have already been solved with these new
>>> patches and I should be able to give you a hand.  I do plan on
>>> releasing a .debs in the future but until then, try this for non-RPM
>>> based systems:
>>>
>>>
>>> # 0 - Your dependencies will be gcc, perl, ncurses-libs, libax25, and
>>> ax25mail-utils
>>> #    All compiling details can be found here:
>>> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11.linpac
>>>
>
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Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[Joe Goforth]

Hi David, Gave it a go on the beaglebone but I couldn't get the axmail 
to compile. It is looking a file called vector.c any clues? I think I 
remember some email from you or someone else about that file?

--Joe

On 2/14/2014 4:40 PM, David Ranch wrote:
>
> Hello Ray,
>
> This is a classic example of why maintaining software is difficult in 
> Linux.. everyone distro seems to want a different name for the same 
> package.  Regardless, what you have on your Rpi seems Ok.
>
> I'll try compiling it on my Rpi too (it's running F6BVP's version of 
> Raspian which is based on Wheezy).
>
> --David
>
>
>
> On 02/14/2014 03:53 PM, Ray Wells wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> A correction on what I previously wrote about meeting dependencies.
>> ncurses-libs is not in the Debian repositories. In Debian I use
>> libncurses5-dev to meet dependencies when compiling kernel ax25 and I've
>> not yet had any curses header errors with Linpac. I'm guessing
>> libncurses5-dev provides the headers provided by ncurse-libs in RPM
>> based systems. Right/wrong???
>>
>> Ray vk2tv
>>
>>
>> On 15/02/14 08:47, Ray Wells wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply and the information. This is great news.
>>>
>>> #0 I didn't realise that ax25mail-utils was a dependency because the
>>> documentation talks about getting mail as being optional. I've met the
>>> other requirements.
>>> #1 On this particular occasion I'm not concerned about the SD card
>>> wearing out but I take your point. It's convenient at the moment to
>>> wear out the card.
>>> #2 I also have concentrated on the curses version. An attempt with the
>>> Java version quite some years back failed and I walked away from it.
>>> Besides, the curses version fits well with headless operation of the 
>>> RPi.
>>>
>>> I'll get and apply the patches and see what happens next. Another
>>> member of the RPi list, Tom SP2LOB is also running with this project.
>>>
>>> I'm not a programmer or a developer but my twenty years of Debian has
>>> taught me what some of the compile errors mean, even if I can't
>>> resolve them <grin>
>>>
>>> Thanks, David.
>>>
>>> Ray vk2tv
>>>
>>> On 15/02/14 04:08, David Ranch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Ray,
>>>>
>>>> I'm actively working on (finally) releasing a new version of Linpac
>>>> but Autoconf has been a challenge.  I received some great help from
>>>> the Xastir folks but have a little more to go. Anyway, I have your
>>>> "vector" and other issues have already been solved with these new
>>>> patches and I should be able to give you a hand.  I do plan on
>>>> releasing a .debs in the future but until then, try this for non-RPM
>>>> based systems:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # 0 - Your dependencies will be gcc, perl, ncurses-libs, libax25, and
>>>> ax25mail-utils
>>>> #    All compiling details can be found here:
>>>> http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11.linpac 
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[David Ranch]

> Hi David, Gave it a go on the beaglebone but I couldn't get the axmail
> to compile. It is looking a file called vector.c any clues? I think I
> remember some email from you or someone else about that file?

Ah.. ok, try this:

cd /tmp
wget 
http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/ax25mail/ax25mail-utils/0.11/ax25mail-utils-0.11.tar.gz

tar xzvf ax25mail-utils-0.11.tar.gz
cd ax25mail-utils-0.11

wget 
http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/ax25mail-utils/ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff.gz

wget 
www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/ax25mail-utils_0.11-ulistd.diff

gunzip ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff.gz

patch -p1 < ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff
patch -p1 < ax25mail-utils_0.11-ulistd.diff

./configure
make

--David

Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[Joe Goforth]

Hi David, That fixed the problem for the ax25mail-utils but I think it 
broke the axmail.cc program. Now it complains it can't find vector.h and 
fstream.h. I changed them to use the vector and fstream but that caused 
more problems it couldn't find gets and some other functions then.

Best Regards,
Joe G.

On 2/14/2014 6:47 PM, David Ranch wrote:
>
>
>> Hi David, Gave it a go on the beaglebone but I couldn't get the axmail
>> to compile. It is looking a file called vector.c any clues? I think I
>> remember some email from you or someone else about that file?
>
> Ah.. ok, try this:
>
> cd /tmp
> wget 
> http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/ax25mail/ax25mail-utils/0.11/ax25mail-utils-0.11.tar.gz
>
> tar xzvf ax25mail-utils-0.11.tar.gz
> cd ax25mail-utils-0.11
>
> wget 
> http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/ax25mail-utils/ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff.gz
>
> wget 
> www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/ax25mail-utils_0.11-ulistd.diff
>
> gunzip ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff.gz
>
> patch -p1 < ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff
> patch -p1 < ax25mail-utils_0.11-ulistd.diff
>
> ./configure
> make
>
> --David
>
>

Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[David Ranch]

Taking it offline not to bother the list on compile issues.  I put 
together a script that will fetch the sources, patch them, etc.
If anyone is interested in the script, feel free to email me offline.

PS.  I've already been reaching out to various people to get the next 
version of Linpac made available in EPEL, Ubuntu repos, etc.

--David


On 02/15/2014 04:24 PM, Joe Goforth wrote:
> Hi David, That fixed the problem for the ax25mail-utils but I think it
> broke the axmail.cc program. Now it complains it can't find vector.h and
> fstream.h. I changed them to use the vector and fstream but that caused
> more problems it couldn't find gets and some other functions then.
>
> Best Regards,
> Joe G.
>
> On 2/14/2014 6:47 PM, David Ranch wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi David, Gave it a go on the beaglebone but I couldn't get the axmail
>>> to compile. It is looking a file called vector.c any clues? I think I
>>> remember some email from you or someone else about that file?
>>
>> Ah.. ok, try this:
>>
>> cd /tmp
>> wget
>> http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/ax25mail/ax25mail-utils/0.11/ax25mail-utils-0.11.tar.gz
>>
>>
>> tar xzvf ax25mail-utils-0.11.tar.gz
>> cd ax25mail-utils-0.11
>>
>> wget
>> http://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/ax25mail-utils/ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff.gz
>>
>>
>> wget
>> www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/ax25mail-utils_0.11-ulistd.diff
>>
>>
>> gunzip ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff.gz
>>
>> patch -p1 < ax25mail-utils_0.11-6.1.diff
>> patch -p1 < ax25mail-utils_0.11-ulistd.diff
>>
>> ./configure
>> make
>>
>> --David
>>
>>

Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[David Ranch]

Hello Ray,

I'm actively working on (finally) releasing a new version of Linpac but 
Autoconf has been a challenge.  I received some great help from the 
Xastir folks but have a little more to go.  Anyway, I have your "vector" 
and other issues have already been solved with these new patches and I 
should be able to give you a hand.  I do plan on releasing a .debs in 
the future but until then, try this for non-RPM based systems:


# 0 - Your dependencies will be gcc, perl, ncurses-libs, libax25, and 
ax25mail-utils
#    All compiling details can be found here: 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11.linpac

# 1 - I highly advise you do NOT compile things on your Rpi's SD card - 
it will wear it out.  Do all your compiling
# via an NFS mount or an attached USB hard drive , etc.

# 2 - Get the sources (please note that the Ncurses based Linpac is the 
one I've been focusing so far)
cd <your high-write cycle destination path>
wget 
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/linpac/LinPac-unstable/0.17pre3/LinPac-0.17pre3.tar.gz

# 3 - Uncompress Linpac
tar xzvf LinPac-0.17pre3.tar.gz

#4 - Get all the required patches
cd LinPac-0.17pre3
wget -r -l1 --no-parent --no-directories -Alinpac0* 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/

#5 - Apply the patches
patch -p0 < linpac0-digi-length.diff
patch -p0 < linpac0-pcskprsnd.diff
patch -p0 < linpac0-compile-fixes.diff
patch -p0 < linpac0-compile-fixes2.diff

#6 - Configure and build it
./configure --prefix=/usr
make

The compiler is still throwing warnings but it builds ok on Centos6.5 
today.  I would appreciate any feedback on how to clean up the warnings 
as I'd like to get a 100% clean build before I post this new version on 
SF.net.

#7 - Configure it up by reading the included manual.html documentation 
and 
http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#11a.linpacconfig


PS.  I'm not on the Rpi list but if you would, please cross-post this 
response over there as well.  I'd love to get more users on Linpac and 
get some additional developers on board!


--David
KI6ZHD



> Over on the RPi list questions are being asked about a packet terminal
> program for the RPi to satisfy a mild renewal of interest in connected
> mode packet. As a one-time user of Linpac I decided to try to compile
> it on the Pi but have run into problems with header files, with
> vector.h being the one that is stumping further progress. I haven't so
> far found a Debian package that provides vector.h. I've tried to
> compile both 0.16 and 0.17-pre with similar results.
>
> I found an email in my archives from David Ranch, dated 21-09-12 in
> which reference was made to someone running Linpac "with great
> results". David is listed as the maintainer.
>
> Is anyone here, and specifically David, able to shed any light on the
> problem?

Re: Linpac on Raspberry Pi

[folkert]

> # 1 - I highly advise you do NOT compile things on your Rpi's SD
> card - it will wear it out.  Do all your compiling
> # via an NFS mount or an attached USB hard drive , etc.

This can be fixed by using the f2fs on the SD card instead of ext3 (or
ext4).
f2fs is a logging filesystem which always uses a new block, never
rewrites the same block.
Small disadvantage is the garbage collector.
I've been running an RPI for almost a year with the same SD card while
using f2fs.


Folkert van Heusden

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