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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Cc: paulmck@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, paul.walmsley@sifive.com,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, mmaas@google.com, hboehm@google.com,
	striker@us.ibm.com, charlie@rivosinc.com, rehn@rivosinc.com,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] membarrier: riscv: Provide core serializing command
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 15:00:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53aac2ac-46ae-46b8-9fdf-34527b79a63b@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZWeDF0eHyOc/b9UJ@andrea>

On 2023-11-29 13:29, Andrea Parri wrote:
>>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/mm/context.c b/arch/riscv/mm/context.c
>>> index 217fd4de61342..f63222513076d 100644
>>> --- a/arch/riscv/mm/context.c
>>> +++ b/arch/riscv/mm/context.c
>>> @@ -323,6 +323,23 @@ void switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
>>>    	if (unlikely(prev == next))
>>>    		return;
>>> +#if defined(CONFIG_MEMBARRIER) && defined(CONFIG_SMP)
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * The membarrier system call requires a full memory barrier
>>> +	 * after storing to rq->curr, before going back to user-space.
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * Only need the full barrier when switching between processes:
>>> +	 * barrier when switching from kernel to userspace is not
>>> +	 * required here, given that it is implied by mmdrop(); barrier
>>> +	 * when switching from userspace to kernel is not needed after
>>> +	 * store to rq->curr.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	if (unlikely(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
>>> +		     (MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED |
>>> +		      MEMBARRIER_STATE_GLOBAL_EXPEDITED)) && prev)
>>> +		smp_mb();
>>> +#endif
>>
>> The approach looks good. Please implement it within a separate
>> membarrier_arch_switch_mm() as done on powerpc.
> 
> Will do.  Thanks.
> 
> As regards the Fixes: tag, I guess it boils down to what we want or we
> need to take for commit "riscv: Support membarrier private cmd".  :-)

I'm not seeing this commit in the Linux master branch, am I missing
something ?

> FWIW, a quick git-log search confirmed that MEMBARRIER has been around
> for quite some time in the RISC-V world (though I'm not familiar with
> any of its mainstream uses): commit 1464d00b27b2 says (at least) since
> 93917ad50972 ("RISC-V: Add support for restartable sequence").  I am
> currently inclined to pick the latter commit (and check it w/ Palmer),
> but other suggestions are welcome.

Supporting membarrier private expedited is not optional since Linux 4.14:

see kernel/sched/core.c:

                 membarrier_switch_mm(rq, prev->active_mm, next->mm);
                 /*
                  * sys_membarrier() requires an smp_mb() between setting
                  * rq->curr / membarrier_switch_mm() and returning to userspace.
                  *
                  * The below provides this either through switch_mm(), or in
                  * case 'prev->active_mm == next->mm' through
                  * finish_task_switch()'s mmdrop().
                  */
                 switch_mm_irqs_off(prev->active_mm, next->mm, next);

Failure to provide the required barrier is a bug in the architecture's
switch_mm implementation when CONFIG_MEMBARRIER=y.

We should probably introduce a new
Documentation/features/sched/membarrier/arch-support.txt
to clarify this requirement.

Userspace code such as liburcu [1] heavily relies on membarrier private
expedited (when available) to speed up RCU read-side critical sections.
Various DNS servers, including BIND 9, use liburcu.

Thanks,

Mathieu

[1] https:/liburcu.org


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com


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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Cc: paulmck@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, paul.walmsley@sifive.com,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, mmaas@google.com, hboehm@google.com,
	striker@us.ibm.com, charlie@rivosinc.com, rehn@rivosinc.com,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] membarrier: riscv: Provide core serializing command
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 15:00:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53aac2ac-46ae-46b8-9fdf-34527b79a63b@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZWeDF0eHyOc/b9UJ@andrea>

On 2023-11-29 13:29, Andrea Parri wrote:
>>> diff --git a/arch/riscv/mm/context.c b/arch/riscv/mm/context.c
>>> index 217fd4de61342..f63222513076d 100644
>>> --- a/arch/riscv/mm/context.c
>>> +++ b/arch/riscv/mm/context.c
>>> @@ -323,6 +323,23 @@ void switch_mm(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
>>>    	if (unlikely(prev == next))
>>>    		return;
>>> +#if defined(CONFIG_MEMBARRIER) && defined(CONFIG_SMP)
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * The membarrier system call requires a full memory barrier
>>> +	 * after storing to rq->curr, before going back to user-space.
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * Only need the full barrier when switching between processes:
>>> +	 * barrier when switching from kernel to userspace is not
>>> +	 * required here, given that it is implied by mmdrop(); barrier
>>> +	 * when switching from userspace to kernel is not needed after
>>> +	 * store to rq->curr.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	if (unlikely(atomic_read(&next->membarrier_state) &
>>> +		     (MEMBARRIER_STATE_PRIVATE_EXPEDITED |
>>> +		      MEMBARRIER_STATE_GLOBAL_EXPEDITED)) && prev)
>>> +		smp_mb();
>>> +#endif
>>
>> The approach looks good. Please implement it within a separate
>> membarrier_arch_switch_mm() as done on powerpc.
> 
> Will do.  Thanks.
> 
> As regards the Fixes: tag, I guess it boils down to what we want or we
> need to take for commit "riscv: Support membarrier private cmd".  :-)

I'm not seeing this commit in the Linux master branch, am I missing
something ?

> FWIW, a quick git-log search confirmed that MEMBARRIER has been around
> for quite some time in the RISC-V world (though I'm not familiar with
> any of its mainstream uses): commit 1464d00b27b2 says (at least) since
> 93917ad50972 ("RISC-V: Add support for restartable sequence").  I am
> currently inclined to pick the latter commit (and check it w/ Palmer),
> but other suggestions are welcome.

Supporting membarrier private expedited is not optional since Linux 4.14:

see kernel/sched/core.c:

                 membarrier_switch_mm(rq, prev->active_mm, next->mm);
                 /*
                  * sys_membarrier() requires an smp_mb() between setting
                  * rq->curr / membarrier_switch_mm() and returning to userspace.
                  *
                  * The below provides this either through switch_mm(), or in
                  * case 'prev->active_mm == next->mm' through
                  * finish_task_switch()'s mmdrop().
                  */
                 switch_mm_irqs_off(prev->active_mm, next->mm, next);

Failure to provide the required barrier is a bug in the architecture's
switch_mm implementation when CONFIG_MEMBARRIER=y.

We should probably introduce a new
Documentation/features/sched/membarrier/arch-support.txt
to clarify this requirement.

Userspace code such as liburcu [1] heavily relies on membarrier private
expedited (when available) to speed up RCU read-side critical sections.
Various DNS servers, including BIND 9, use liburcu.

Thanks,

Mathieu

[1] https:/liburcu.org


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-27 10:32 [PATCH 0/2] membarrier: riscv: Provide core serializing command Andrea Parri
2023-11-27 10:32 ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-27 10:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] locking: Introduce prepare_sync_core_cmd() Andrea Parri
2023-11-27 10:32   ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-27 12:53   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-27 12:53     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-27 10:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] membarrier: riscv: Provide core serializing command Andrea Parri
2023-11-27 10:32   ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-27 13:28   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-27 13:28     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-28 15:13     ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-28 15:13       ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-28 18:39       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-28 18:39         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-29 18:29         ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-29 18:29           ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-29 20:00           ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2023-11-29 20:00             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-29 21:25             ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-29 21:25               ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-29 21:32               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-29 21:32                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-29 22:43                 ` Andrea Parri
2023-11-29 22:43                   ` Andrea Parri
2023-12-06 13:05                   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-12-06 13:05                     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-12-06 14:11                     ` Andrea Parri
2023-12-06 14:11                       ` Andrea Parri
2023-12-06 14:15                       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-12-06 14:15                         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-12-06 17:42                         ` Andrea Parri
2023-12-06 17:42                           ` Andrea Parri
2023-12-06 17:56                           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-12-06 17:56                             ` Palmer Dabbelt

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