From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] ARM: versatile: move CLCD configuration to device tree Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:47:36 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <56CD9858.40104@ti.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20160224113549.GN19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2310 bytes --] On 24/02/16 13:35, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > If the connector is a flexi-strip or LVDS connector designed to be > connected directly to a panel, it is not designed as a user connector, > and the display can be regarded as part of the board: the connector > probably isn't rated for a large number of mating cycles. > > If the connector is a board-edge external-unit connector, then the > panel is not part of the board. Ok, I see. I presumed the display-board was attached directly to the mainboard. Of course, we could still argue about the difference, with the exact same pins used with an external connector and with an on-board connector, but lets not go there. I agree in this case the panels are external devices =). However, I would still be interested in opinions how to implement the exact same case, but for boards where the panels were considered on-board panels. > The displays are not built for "this single board" but for a family of > boards: not only Versatile PB/AB, but also the Realview family of boards > too. Alright. So, if this is to be done correctly, we need to disconnect the display board code from the CLCD code, as they really have nothing to do with each other. Perhaps a panel driver which covers the display boards used here, which does the probing and contains the video timings for the panels in question? One could then use that panel driver with other display controllers too. Although the probing part is perhaps difficult to make generic, but that board specific code should still be part of the panel-board driver, not CLCD driver. >> But I cannot accept that as a general solution for all similar cases >> going forward, especially when moving to DRM world, that's just bad SW >> design. > > I think that's a matter of personal opinion, perspective and situation. > What is good design today is not necessary good design yesterday or > tomorrow. I thought we already ascertained that earlier in this > discussion. :) Well, I was mostly referring to combining separate devices into single driver. CLCD and the external displays, in this case. Then again, "complexity" is part of the SW design, and splitting the devices drivers into independent pieces often increases complexity, so... Tomi [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 819 bytes --]
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From: tomi.valkeinen@ti.com (Tomi Valkeinen) To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: [PATCH 11/11] ARM: versatile: move CLCD configuration to device tree Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:47:36 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <56CD9858.40104@ti.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20160224113549.GN19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> On 24/02/16 13:35, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > If the connector is a flexi-strip or LVDS connector designed to be > connected directly to a panel, it is not designed as a user connector, > and the display can be regarded as part of the board: the connector > probably isn't rated for a large number of mating cycles. > > If the connector is a board-edge external-unit connector, then the > panel is not part of the board. Ok, I see. I presumed the display-board was attached directly to the mainboard. Of course, we could still argue about the difference, with the exact same pins used with an external connector and with an on-board connector, but lets not go there. I agree in this case the panels are external devices =). However, I would still be interested in opinions how to implement the exact same case, but for boards where the panels were considered on-board panels. > The displays are not built for "this single board" but for a family of > boards: not only Versatile PB/AB, but also the Realview family of boards > too. Alright. So, if this is to be done correctly, we need to disconnect the display board code from the CLCD code, as they really have nothing to do with each other. Perhaps a panel driver which covers the display boards used here, which does the probing and contains the video timings for the panels in question? One could then use that panel driver with other display controllers too. Although the probing part is perhaps difficult to make generic, but that board specific code should still be part of the panel-board driver, not CLCD driver. >> But I cannot accept that as a general solution for all similar cases >> going forward, especially when moving to DRM world, that's just bad SW >> design. > > I think that's a matter of personal opinion, perspective and situation. > What is good design today is not necessary good design yesterday or > tomorrow. I thought we already ascertained that earlier in this > discussion. :) Well, I was mostly referring to combining separate devices into single driver. CLCD and the external displays, in this case. Then again, "complexity" is part of the SW design, and splitting the devices drivers into independent pieces often increases complexity, so... Tomi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/attachments/20160224/2f80fff6/attachment-0001.sig>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-24 11:47 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2016-02-04 14:04 [PATCH 00/11] CLCD Nomadik+Versatile support Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 01/11] video: ARM CLCD: backlight support for OF Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 02/11] video: ARM CLCD: support DT signal inversion flags Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-17 18:10 ` [02/11] " Ray Jui 2016-02-17 18:10 ` Ray Jui 2016-02-19 8:46 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-19 8:46 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-20 1:23 ` Ray Jui 2016-02-20 1:23 ` Ray Jui 2016-02-20 11:46 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-20 11:46 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 03/11] video: ARM CLCD: support pads connected in reverse order Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 04/11] video: ARM CLCD: support Nomadik variant Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 05/11] video: ARM CLCD: add special board and panel hooks for Nomadik Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 06/11] Documentation/DT: add blurb for IB2 syscon to Versatile Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 07/11] Documentation/DT: add Versatile display bindings Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-17 9:11 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-17 9:11 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-18 20:48 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-18 20:48 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 08/11] video: ARM CLCD: add special panel hook for Versatiles Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 09/11] ARM: PB11MPCore: define a standard VGA panel Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 10/11] ARM: PB1176: " Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` [PATCH 11/11] ARM: versatile: move CLCD configuration to device tree Linus Walleij 2016-02-04 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-17 9:09 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-17 9:09 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-17 9:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-17 9:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-17 16:17 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-17 16:17 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-17 21:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-17 21:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-18 11:52 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-18 11:52 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-18 13:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-18 13:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-18 13:37 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-18 13:37 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-18 20:31 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-18 20:31 ` Linus Walleij [not found] ` <56C5B080.9090007-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org> 2016-02-21 22:39 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-21 22:39 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-21 22:39 ` Linus Walleij [not found] ` <CACRpkdaXFUCR5=5mS28_4Dx_LfzqV13zwT=vVeJwuOzm_rGRBQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2016-02-22 15:41 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-22 15:41 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-22 15:41 ` Tomi Valkeinen [not found] ` <56CB2C31.5040703-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org> 2016-02-22 15:54 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-22 15:54 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-22 15:54 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 9:08 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 9:08 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 9:34 ` Arnd Bergmann 2016-02-23 9:34 ` Arnd Bergmann 2016-02-23 10:10 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 10:10 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 11:22 ` Arnd Bergmann 2016-02-23 11:22 ` Arnd Bergmann 2016-02-23 13:00 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-23 13:00 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-23 13:16 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 13:16 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 13:38 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-23 13:38 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-24 10:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-24 10:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-24 11:35 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-24 11:35 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-25 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-25 14:04 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-25 16:08 ` Arnd Bergmann 2016-02-25 16:08 ` Arnd Bergmann 2016-02-25 16:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-25 16:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-25 16:45 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-25 16:45 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-25 16:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-25 16:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-25 19:30 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-25 19:30 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-26 10:47 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-26 10:47 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-03-05 16:57 ` Linus Walleij 2016-03-05 16:57 ` Linus Walleij 2016-03-07 7:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-03-07 7:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-25 19:32 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-25 19:32 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 9:58 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-23 9:58 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-23 10:32 ` Adam Ford 2016-02-23 10:32 ` Adam Ford 2016-02-23 10:59 ` Pantelis Antoniou 2016-02-23 10:59 ` Pantelis Antoniou 2016-02-23 11:56 ` Peter Maydell 2016-02-23 11:56 ` Peter Maydell 2016-02-23 12:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-23 12:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-23 13:45 ` Tom Rini 2016-02-23 13:45 ` Tom Rini 2016-02-23 12:45 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-23 12:45 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-23 13:49 ` Peter Maydell 2016-02-23 13:49 ` Peter Maydell 2016-02-24 12:06 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-24 12:06 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-24 10:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-24 10:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-24 11:21 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-24 11:21 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-24 11:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-24 11:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-02-24 11:47 ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message] 2016-02-24 11:47 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-24 12:13 ` Pantelis Antoniou 2016-02-24 12:13 ` Pantelis Antoniou 2016-02-25 13:43 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-25 13:43 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-25 13:56 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-25 13:56 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-25 14:35 ` Pantelis Antoniou 2016-02-25 14:35 ` Pantelis Antoniou 2016-02-25 15:36 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-25 15:36 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-25 15:40 ` Pantelis Antoniou 2016-02-25 15:40 ` Pantelis Antoniou 2016-02-23 13:08 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-23 13:08 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-15 23:34 ` [PATCH 00/11] CLCD Nomadik+Versatile support Linus Walleij 2016-02-15 23:34 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-16 13:29 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-16 13:29 ` Tomi Valkeinen 2016-02-16 22:30 ` Linus Walleij 2016-02-16 22:30 ` Linus Walleij
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