All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@intel.com>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	Rudolf Marek <r.marek@assembler.cz>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
Subject: RE: [lm-sensors] Could the k8temp driver be interfering with ACPI?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:07:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B28E9812BAF6E2498B7EC5C427F293A402021B07@orsmsx415.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070302220454.a0c66d04.khali@linux-fr.org>

Port (and memory) addresses can be dynamically generated by the AML code
and thus, there is no way that the ACPI subsystem can statically predict
any addresses that will be accessed by the AML.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-acpi-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-acpi-
> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Jean Delvare
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:05 PM
> To: Matthew Garrett
> Cc: Pavel Machek; Chuck Ebbert; Rudolf Marek;
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org;
> linux-kernel; lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
> Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] Could the k8temp driver be interfering with
> ACPI?
> 
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:18:40 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:10:55PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not familiar with APCI at all so I didn't know, but what you
write
> > > here brings some hope. Would it be possible to parse all the DSDT
code
> > > at boot time and deduce all the ports which ACPI would need to
request
> > > to be safe? Or do we have to wait for the accesses to actually
happen?
> >
> > In theory I /think/ so, but it would probably end up being an
> > overestimate of the coverage actually needed. Trapping at runtime is
> > arguably more elegant?
> 
> It might be more elegant but it won't work. We don't want to prevent
> ACPI from accessing these I/O ports. If we need to choose only one
> "driver" accessing the I/O port, it must be acpi, at leat for now,
> despite the fact that acpi provides very weak hardware monitoring
> capabilities compared to the specific drivers.
> 
> Why would we end up with an overestimation if we check the I/O ports
at
> boot time? Do you have concrete cases in mind?
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> Jean Delvare
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi"
in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@intel.com>
To: "Jean Delvare" <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	"Matthew Garrett" <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: "Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"Chuck Ebbert" <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	"Rudolf Marek" <r.marek@assembler.cz>,
	<linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org>
Subject: RE: [lm-sensors] Could the k8temp driver be interfering with ACPI?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:07:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B28E9812BAF6E2498B7EC5C427F293A402021B07@orsmsx415.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070302220454.a0c66d04.khali@linux-fr.org>

Port (and memory) addresses can be dynamically generated by the AML code
and thus, there is no way that the ACPI subsystem can statically predict
any addresses that will be accessed by the AML.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-acpi-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-acpi-
> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Jean Delvare
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:05 PM
> To: Matthew Garrett
> Cc: Pavel Machek; Chuck Ebbert; Rudolf Marek;
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org;
> linux-kernel; lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
> Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] Could the k8temp driver be interfering with
> ACPI?
> 
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:18:40 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:10:55PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not familiar with APCI at all so I didn't know, but what you
write
> > > here brings some hope. Would it be possible to parse all the DSDT
code
> > > at boot time and deduce all the ports which ACPI would need to
request
> > > to be safe? Or do we have to wait for the accesses to actually
happen?
> >
> > In theory I /think/ so, but it would probably end up being an
> > overestimate of the coverage actually needed. Trapping at runtime is
> > arguably more elegant?
> 
> It might be more elegant but it won't work. We don't want to prevent
> ACPI from accessing these I/O ports. If we need to choose only one
> "driver" accessing the I/O port, it must be acpi, at leat for now,
> despite the fact that acpi provides very weak hardware monitoring
> capabilities compared to the specific drivers.
> 
> Why would we end up with an overestimation if we check the I/O ports
at
> boot time? Do you have concrete cases in mind?
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> Jean Delvare
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi"
in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: robert.moore@intel.com (Moore, Robert)
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	Rudolf Marek <r.marek@assembler.cz>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
Subject: [lm-sensors] Could the k8temp driver be interfering with ACPI?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:07:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B28E9812BAF6E2498B7EC5C427F293A402021B07@orsmsx415.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070302220454.a0c66d04.khali@linux-fr.org>

Port (and memory) addresses can be dynamically generated by the AML code
and thus, there is no way that the ACPI subsystem can statically predict
any addresses that will be accessed by the AML.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-acpi-owner at vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-acpi-
> owner at vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Jean Delvare
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:05 PM
> To: Matthew Garrett
> Cc: Pavel Machek; Chuck Ebbert; Rudolf Marek;
linux-acpi at vger.kernel.org;
> linux-kernel; lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org
> Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] Could the k8temp driver be interfering with
> ACPI?
> 
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:18:40 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:10:55PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not familiar with APCI at all so I didn't know, but what you
write
> > > here brings some hope. Would it be possible to parse all the DSDT
code
> > > at boot time and deduce all the ports which ACPI would need to
request
> > > to be safe? Or do we have to wait for the accesses to actually
happen?
> >
> > In theory I /think/ so, but it would probably end up being an
> > overestimate of the coverage actually needed. Trapping at runtime is
> > arguably more elegant?
> 
> It might be more elegant but it won't work. We don't want to prevent
> ACPI from accessing these I/O ports. If we need to choose only one
> "driver" accessing the I/O port, it must be acpi, at leat for now,
> despite the fact that acpi provides very weak hardware monitoring
> capabilities compared to the specific drivers.
> 
> Why would we end up with an overestimation if we check the I/O ports
at
> boot time? Do you have concrete cases in mind?
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> Jean Delvare
> -
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi"
in
> the body of a message to majordomo at vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-02 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 220+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-16 17:31 Could the k8temp driver be interfering with ACPI? Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-16 17:31 ` [lm-sensors] " Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-16 17:57 ` Len Brown
2007-02-16 17:57   ` [lm-sensors] " Len Brown
2007-02-16 18:14   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-16 18:14     ` [lm-sensors] " Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-16 19:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 19:59   ` [lm-sensors] " Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 19:31   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-16 19:31     ` [lm-sensors] " Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-18 17:32     ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-18 17:32       ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-18 23:22       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-18 23:22         ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-17 10:49 ` Rudolf Marek
2007-02-17 10:49   ` [lm-sensors] " Rudolf Marek
2007-02-17 10:49   ` Rudolf Marek
2007-02-17 18:14   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-17 18:14     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-18 17:38     ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-18 17:38       ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-20 15:18       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-02-20 15:18         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-02-20 15:33         ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-02-20 15:33           ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-02-21 14:59           ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 14:59             ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 15:07         ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 15:07           ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-28 21:38       ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-28 21:38         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-01 14:26         ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-01 14:26           ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2007-03-01 14:26           ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-01 17:48           ` Dave Jones
2007-03-01 17:48             ` Dave Jones
2007-03-02 11:27             ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 11:27               ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 11:31               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 11:31                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 13:37                 ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 13:37                   ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 13:47                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-02 13:47                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-02 13:57                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 13:57                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-03  6:44                     ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-03  6:44                       ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 11:40           ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 11:40             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 11:47             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-02 11:47               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-02 13:58               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 13:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 21:00                 ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 21:00                   ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 21:22                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-03-02 21:22                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-04-01 15:39                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-01 15:39                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 15:48                     ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-02 15:48                       ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2007-04-02 19:22                       ` Dave Jones
2007-04-02 19:22                         ` [lm-sensors] " Dave Jones
2007-04-03  5:49                         ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-03  5:49                           ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2007-04-02 20:55                       ` Moore, Robert
2007-04-02 20:55                         ` [lm-sensors] " Moore, Robert
2007-04-02 20:55                         ` Moore, Robert
2007-04-03  7:21                         ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-03  7:21                           ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2007-04-03  7:21                           ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-04 21:35                           ` Moore, Robert
2007-04-04 21:35                             ` [lm-sensors] " Moore, Robert
2007-04-04 21:35                             ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-02 14:10               ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 14:10                 ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 14:18                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-02 14:18                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-02 21:04                   ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 21:04                     ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 21:12                     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-02 21:12                       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-03  9:53                       ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-03  9:53                         ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-03 15:47                         ` David Hubbard
2007-03-03 15:47                           ` David Hubbard
2007-03-03 15:50                           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-03 15:50                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-03 17:08                             ` Rudolf Marek
2007-03-03 17:08                               ` Rudolf Marek
2007-03-04 17:29                               ` Rudolf Marek
2007-03-04 17:29                                 ` Rudolf Marek
2007-03-05 21:16                                 ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-05 21:16                                   ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-05 21:35                                   ` David Hubbard
2007-03-05 21:35                                     ` David Hubbard
2007-03-06 15:10                                     ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-06 15:10                                       ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-04 10:54                           ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-04 10:54                             ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-05 22:25                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-05 22:25                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-06  7:55                           ` Benny Amorsen
2007-03-06  7:55                             ` Benny Amorsen
2007-03-06 15:26                           ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-06 15:26                             ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-06 20:07                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-06 20:07                               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-06 20:07                               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-06 21:20                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-06 21:20                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-06 21:25                               ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-06 21:25                                 ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-06 21:25                                 ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-18 19:36                         ` richardvoigt
2007-03-18 19:36                           ` richardvoigt at gmail.com
2007-03-19  7:08                           ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-19  7:08                             ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 22:07                     ` Moore, Robert [this message]
2007-03-02 22:07                       ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-02 22:07                       ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-09  7:18                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-09  7:18                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-09 10:24                         ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-09 10:24                           ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-09 10:39                           ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-03-09 10:39                             ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-03-09 11:21                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-09 11:21                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-09 17:23                             ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-09 17:23                               ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-09 17:35                               ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-03-09 17:35                                 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-03-09 21:03                                 ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-09 21:03                                   ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-09 21:03                                   ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-09 20:56                         ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-09 20:56                           ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-09 20:56                           ` Moore, Robert
2007-03-02 14:22                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 14:22                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 14:03             ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 14:03               ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 14:24               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 14:24                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-02 14:57               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-02 14:57                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-02 21:41                 ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 21:41                   ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-02 21:46                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-02 21:46                     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-03-06 21:28                     ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-06 21:28                       ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-13 18:18               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-13 18:18                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-13 20:07                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 20:07                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-13 20:59                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-13 20:59                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-15  9:41                     ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-15  9:41                       ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-15 20:31                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-15 20:31                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-15 20:59                         ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-04-15 20:59                           ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-04-16  0:57                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-16  0:57                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-16 21:14                             ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-04-16 21:14                               ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-04-16 22:28                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-16 22:28                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2007-04-17 23:50                                 ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-04-17 23:50                                   ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-04-22 16:55                                   ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-04-22 16:55                                     ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-04-17 10:03                               ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-17 10:03                                 ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-18 22:43     ` Rudolf Marek
2007-02-18 22:43       ` Rudolf Marek
2007-02-20 15:08       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-20 15:08         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-20 19:11         ` Dave Jones
2007-02-20 19:11           ` Dave Jones
2007-02-21 16:17           ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 16:17             ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 17:37             ` Dave Jones
2007-02-21 17:37               ` Dave Jones
2007-02-21 20:19               ` Dave Jones
2007-02-21 20:19                 ` Dave Jones
2007-02-22 16:37                 ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-22 16:37                   ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-23  7:13                   ` Hans de Goede
2007-02-23  7:13                     ` [lm-sensors] " Hans de Goede
2007-02-23  7:13                     ` Hans de Goede
2007-02-23  7:47                     ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-23  7:47                       ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 14:54         ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 14:54           ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 16:03           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-21 16:03             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-02-21 16:22             ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-21 16:22               ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-23  8:08 ` Hans de Goede
2007-02-26 17:24 ` Jean Delvare
2007-02-26 19:03 ` Hans de Goede
2007-02-27  8:45 ` Jean Delvare
     [not found] <7PvLN-1cj-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <7TEGV-6Jy-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <7TUBX-6TN-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <7UeqX-4QO-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <7UeqZ-4QO-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <7UgM5-np-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <7UgM8-np-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <7UnaS-2xP-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <7UnkC-2JB-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <7Uzcd-49u-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <7UEEN-4xi-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-03-05 13:56                     ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-05 13:56                       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-05 13:56                       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-06 15:19                       ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-06 15:19                         ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-06 20:40                         ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-06 20:40                           ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-07  9:17                           ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-07  9:17                             ` Jean Delvare
2007-03-07  9:36                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-07  9:36                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-07 17:09                             ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-07 17:09                               ` Bodo Eggert

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=B28E9812BAF6E2498B7EC5C427F293A402021B07@orsmsx415.amr.corp.intel.com \
    --to=robert.moore@intel.com \
    --cc=cebbert@redhat.com \
    --cc=khali@linux-fr.org \
    --cc=linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org \
    --cc=mjg59@srcf.ucam.org \
    --cc=pavel@ucw.cz \
    --cc=r.marek@assembler.cz \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.