From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>, Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>, Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>, Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>, Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>, "iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>, Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>, "Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>, "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>, Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>, "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, Keqian Zhu <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>, Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 04/12] kernel/user: Allow user::locked_vm to be usable for iommufd Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:59:52 +0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CACGkMEu_Zc+xBR0G9qNR6XQKNY9MLfTvbpgzpL2kNC4ri3DRQg@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20220328122239.GL1342626@nvidia.com> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 09:53:27AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: > > To me, it looks more easier to not answer this question by letting > > userspace know about the change, > > That is not backwards compatbile, so I don't think it helps unless we > say if you open /dev/vfio/vfio you get old behavior and if you open > /dev/iommu you get new... Actually, this is one way to go. Trying to behave exactly like typ1 might be not easy. > > Nor does it answer if I can fix RDMA or not :\ > vDPA has a backend feature negotiation, then actually, userspace can tell vDPA to go with the new accounting approach. Not sure RDMA can do the same. Thanks > So we really do need to know what exactly is the situation here. > > Jason >
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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>, Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>, "iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>, Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, "Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 04/12] kernel/user: Allow user::locked_vm to be usable for iommufd Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:59:52 +0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CACGkMEu_Zc+xBR0G9qNR6XQKNY9MLfTvbpgzpL2kNC4ri3DRQg@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20220328122239.GL1342626@nvidia.com> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 09:53:27AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote: > > To me, it looks more easier to not answer this question by letting > > userspace know about the change, > > That is not backwards compatbile, so I don't think it helps unless we > say if you open /dev/vfio/vfio you get old behavior and if you open > /dev/iommu you get new... Actually, this is one way to go. Trying to behave exactly like typ1 might be not easy. > > Nor does it answer if I can fix RDMA or not :\ > vDPA has a backend feature negotiation, then actually, userspace can tell vDPA to go with the new accounting approach. Not sure RDMA can do the same. Thanks > So we really do need to know what exactly is the situation here. > > Jason > _______________________________________________ iommu mailing list iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/iommu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-29 5:00 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 244+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2022-03-18 17:27 [PATCH RFC 00/12] IOMMUFD Generic interface Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 01/12] interval-tree: Add a utility to iterate over spans in an interval tree Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 02/12] iommufd: Overview documentation Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 03/12] iommufd: File descriptor, context, kconfig and makefiles Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-22 14:18 ` Niklas Schnelle 2022-03-22 14:18 ` Niklas Schnelle 2022-03-22 14:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-22 14:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 04/12] kernel/user: Allow user::locked_vm to be usable for iommufd Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-22 14:28 ` Niklas Schnelle 2022-03-22 14:28 ` Niklas Schnelle 2022-03-22 14:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-22 14:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-22 15:29 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-22 15:29 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-22 16:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-22 16:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-24 2:11 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 2:11 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 2:27 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-24 2:27 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-24 2:42 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 2:42 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 2:57 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-24 2:57 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-24 3:15 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 3:15 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 3:50 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-24 3:50 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-24 4:29 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 4:29 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 11:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-24 11:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-28 1:53 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-28 1:53 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-28 12:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-28 12:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-29 4:59 ` Jason Wang [this message] 2022-03-29 4:59 ` Jason Wang 2022-03-29 11:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-29 11:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-28 13:14 ` Sean Mooney 2022-03-28 13:14 ` Sean Mooney 2022-03-28 14:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-28 14:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-24 20:40 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-24 20:40 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-24 22:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-24 22:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-24 22:41 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-24 22:41 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-22 16:31 ` Niklas Schnelle 2022-03-22 16:31 ` Niklas Schnelle 2022-03-22 16:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-22 16:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 05/12] iommufd: PFN handling for iopt_pages Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-23 15:37 ` Niklas Schnelle 2022-03-23 15:37 ` Niklas Schnelle 2022-03-23 16:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-23 16:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 06/12] iommufd: Algorithms for PFN storage Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 07/12] iommufd: Data structure to provide IOVA to PFN mapping Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-22 22:15 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-22 22:15 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-23 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-23 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-24 3:09 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 3:09 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-24 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-25 13:34 ` zhangfei.gao 2022-03-25 13:34 ` zhangfei.gao 2022-03-25 17:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-25 17:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-04-13 14:02 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-13 14:02 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-13 14:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-04-13 14:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-04-13 14:49 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-13 14:49 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-17 14:56 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-17 14:56 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-18 10:47 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-18 10:47 ` Yi Liu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 08/12] iommufd: IOCTLs for the io_pagetable Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-23 19:10 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-23 19:10 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-23 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-23 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-23 20:04 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-23 20:04 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-23 20:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-23 20:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-23 22:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-23 22:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-24 7:25 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 7:25 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 13:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-24 13:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-25 2:15 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-25 2:15 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-27 2:32 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-27 2:32 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-27 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-27 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-28 17:17 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-28 17:17 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-28 18:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-28 18:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-28 19:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-28 19:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-28 21:26 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-28 21:26 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-24 6:46 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-24 6:46 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-30 13:35 ` Yi Liu 2022-03-30 13:35 ` Yi Liu 2022-03-31 12:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-31 12:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-04-01 13:30 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-01 13:30 ` Yi Liu 2022-03-31 4:36 ` David Gibson 2022-03-31 4:36 ` David Gibson 2022-03-31 5:41 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-31 5:41 ` Tian, Kevin 2022-03-31 12:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-31 12:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-04-28 5:58 ` David Gibson 2022-04-28 5:58 ` David Gibson 2022-04-28 14:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-04-28 14:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-04-29 6:00 ` David Gibson 2022-04-29 6:00 ` David Gibson 2022-04-29 12:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-04-29 12:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-04-30 14:44 ` David Gibson 2022-04-30 14:44 ` David Gibson 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 09/12] iommufd: Add a HW pagetable object Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 10/12] iommufd: Add kAPI toward external drivers Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-23 18:10 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-23 18:10 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-23 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-23 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-05-11 12:54 ` Yi Liu 2022-05-11 12:54 ` Yi Liu 2022-05-19 9:45 ` Yi Liu 2022-05-19 9:45 ` Yi Liu 2022-05-19 12:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-05-19 12:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 11/12] iommufd: vfio container FD ioctl compatibility Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-23 22:51 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-23 22:51 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-24 0:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-24 0:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-03-24 8:13 ` Eric Auger 2022-03-24 8:13 ` Eric Auger 2022-03-24 22:04 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-24 22:04 ` Alex Williamson 2022-03-24 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-24 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 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Alexey Kardashevskiy 2022-05-25 2:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy 2022-03-29 9:17 ` Yi Liu 2022-03-29 9:17 ` Yi Liu 2022-03-18 17:27 ` [PATCH RFC 12/12] iommufd: Add a selftest Jason Gunthorpe 2022-03-18 17:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-04-12 20:13 ` [PATCH RFC 00/12] IOMMUFD Generic interface Eric Auger 2022-04-12 20:13 ` Eric Auger 2022-04-12 20:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe via iommu 2022-04-12 20:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2022-04-12 20:50 ` Eric Auger 2022-04-12 20:50 ` Eric Auger 2022-04-14 10:56 ` Yi Liu 2022-04-14 10:56 ` Yi Liu
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