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From: chen tang <imtangchen@gmail.com>
To: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
Cc: Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei.yes@gmail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Bob Moore <robert.moore@intel.com>, Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
	Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"mina86@mina86.com" <mina86@mina86.com>,
	"gong.chen@linux.intel.com" <gong.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Vasilis
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] x86, acpi: Move acpi_initrd_override() earlier.
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 05:37:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD11hGzaK1Y1J7vQUOCQg8O767479qXQnYWm_72nPEK+E+TrHg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1377282543.10300.820.camel@misato.fc.hp.com>

Hi Toshi, tj,

Really sorry for the delay. There were so many discussions in this thread and
it took me a lot of time to read and follow them.

2013/8/24 Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>:
......
> On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 00:54 +0800, Zhang Yanfei wrote:
>> > Tang, what do you think?  Are you OK to try Tejun's suggestion as well?
>> >

We have been working on this for a while. And will send the patches soon.
We are trying this idea and will see how it goes.

>>
>> By saying TJ's suggestion, you mean, we will let memblock to control the
>> behaviour, that said, we will do early allocations near the kernel image
>> range before we get the SRAT info?
>
> Right.
>
>> If so, yeah, we have been working on this direction.
>
> Great!
>
>> By doing this, we may
>> have two main changes:
>>
>> 1. change some of memblock's APIs to make it have the ability to allocate
>>    memory from low address.
>> 2. setup kernel page table down-top. Concretely, we first map the memory
>>    just after the kernel image to the top, then, we map 0 - kernel image end.
>>
>> Do you guys think this is reasonable and acceptable?
>
> Have you also looked at Yinghai's comments below?
>
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mm/msg61362.html
>

We have read the comments from Yinghai. Reordering relocated_initrd and
reserve_crashkernel is doable, and the most difficult part is change the page
tables initialization logic. And as Zhang has mentioned above, we are not sure
if this could be acceptable.

Actually I also stand with Toshi that we should get SRAT earlier. This
will solve
memory hotplug issue, and also the following local page table problem.

And as tj concerned about the stability of the kernel boot sequence, then how
about this:

We don't do acpi_initrd_override() that early in head_32.S and head_64.c. We do
it after early_ioremap is available. I have mentioned this before.

With the help of early_ioremap, which is used by many others, we can copy all
override tables into memory. In my understanding, the page tables setup by
early_ioremap will work just like direct mapping page tables, right ?
Then we unmap
the memory, it is done. And we don't need to split the whole procedure
into fnd & copy.

So to tj, this approach won't affect acpica and very early boot
sequence. Are you OK
with this ?

Thanks.

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From: chen tang <imtangchen@gmail.com>
To: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
Cc: Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei.yes@gmail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Bob Moore <robert.moore@intel.com>, Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
	Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"mina86@mina86.com" <mina86@mina86.com>,
	"gong.chen@linux.intel.com" <gong.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	"lwoodman@redhat.com" <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"jweiner@redhat.com" <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com" <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] x86, acpi: Move acpi_initrd_override() earlier.
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 05:37:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD11hGzaK1Y1J7vQUOCQg8O767479qXQnYWm_72nPEK+E+TrHg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1377282543.10300.820.camel@misato.fc.hp.com>

Hi Toshi, tj,

Really sorry for the delay. There were so many discussions in this thread and
it took me a lot of time to read and follow them.

2013/8/24 Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>:
......
> On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 00:54 +0800, Zhang Yanfei wrote:
>> > Tang, what do you think?  Are you OK to try Tejun's suggestion as well?
>> >

We have been working on this for a while. And will send the patches soon.
We are trying this idea and will see how it goes.

>>
>> By saying TJ's suggestion, you mean, we will let memblock to control the
>> behaviour, that said, we will do early allocations near the kernel image
>> range before we get the SRAT info?
>
> Right.
>
>> If so, yeah, we have been working on this direction.
>
> Great!
>
>> By doing this, we may
>> have two main changes:
>>
>> 1. change some of memblock's APIs to make it have the ability to allocate
>>    memory from low address.
>> 2. setup kernel page table down-top. Concretely, we first map the memory
>>    just after the kernel image to the top, then, we map 0 - kernel image end.
>>
>> Do you guys think this is reasonable and acceptable?
>
> Have you also looked at Yinghai's comments below?
>
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mm/msg61362.html
>

We have read the comments from Yinghai. Reordering relocated_initrd and
reserve_crashkernel is doable, and the most difficult part is change the page
tables initialization logic. And as Zhang has mentioned above, we are not sure
if this could be acceptable.

Actually I also stand with Toshi that we should get SRAT earlier. This
will solve
memory hotplug issue, and also the following local page table problem.

And as tj concerned about the stability of the kernel boot sequence, then how
about this:

We don't do acpi_initrd_override() that early in head_32.S and head_64.c. We do
it after early_ioremap is available. I have mentioned this before.

With the help of early_ioremap, which is used by many others, we can copy all
override tables into memory. In my understanding, the page tables setup by
early_ioremap will work just like direct mapping page tables, right ?
Then we unmap
the memory, it is done. And we don't need to split the whole procedure
into fnd & copy.

So to tj, this approach won't affect acpica and very early boot
sequence. Are you OK
with this ?

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-23 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-21 10:15 [PATCH 0/8] x86, acpi: Move acpi_initrd_override() earlier Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 1/8] x86: Make get_ramdisk_{image|size}() global Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86, microcode: Use get_ramdisk_{image|size}() in microcode handling Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 3/8] x86, acpi: Move table_sigs[] to stack Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 4/8] x86, acpi, brk: Extend BRK 256KB to store acpi override tables Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 5/8] x86, brk: Make extend_brk() available with va/pa Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 12:26   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-21 12:26     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-21 12:35     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 12:35       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 14:42       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-21 14:42         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-08-21 15:04         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 15:04           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 6/8] x86, acpi: Make acpi_initrd_override() available with va or pa Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 7/8] x86, acpi, brk: Make early_alloc_acpi_override_tables_buf() available with va/pa Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15 ` [PATCH 8/8] x86, acpi: Do acpi_initrd_override() earlier in head_32.S/head64.c Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:42 ` [PATCH 0/8] x86, acpi: Move acpi_initrd_override() earlier Tang Chen
2013-08-21 10:42   ` Tang Chen
2013-08-21 13:06 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 13:06   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 15:00   ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-21 15:00     ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-21 15:36     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 15:36       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 19:31       ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 19:31         ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 19:54         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 19:54           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 20:29           ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 20:29             ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 20:40             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 20:40               ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-21 22:36               ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-21 22:36                 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22  3:32                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22  3:32                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 15:52                   ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 15:52                     ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 18:31                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 18:31                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 19:39                       ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-22 19:39                         ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-22 19:45                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 19:45                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 20:11                       ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 20:11                         ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 20:21                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 20:21                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 20:35                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 20:35                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 21:06                           ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 21:06                             ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 21:21                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 21:21                               ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-22 22:17                               ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-22 22:17                                 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 13:04                                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 13:04                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 13:08                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 13:08                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 14:19                                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:19                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:24                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 14:24                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 14:24                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 14:35                                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:35                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:57                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 14:57                                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 16:14                                   ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 16:14                                     ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 16:24                                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 16:24                                       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 17:13                                       ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 17:13                                         ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 17:29                                         ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-23 17:29                                           ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-23 16:54                                     ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-23 16:54                                       ` Zhang Yanfei
2013-08-23 18:18                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 18:18                                         ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 18:25                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-23 20:08                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 20:30                                             ` Russ Anderson
2013-08-23 20:48                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 21:50                                                 ` chen tang
2013-08-23 21:52                                                   ` Moore, Robert
2013-08-23 22:05                                                     ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 22:08                                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 22:40                                                     ` chen tang
2013-08-23 23:04                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-24  2:41                                             ` Russ Anderson
2013-08-23 20:33                                         ` chen tang
2013-08-23 20:33                                           ` chen tang
2013-08-23 21:08                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 21:08                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-23 22:27                                             ` chen tang
2013-08-23 22:27                                               ` chen tang
2013-08-23 18:29                                       ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 18:29                                         ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-23 21:37                                         ` chen tang [this message]
2013-08-23 21:37                                           ` chen tang
2013-08-23 21:52                                           ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 21:52                                             ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-23 23:56                                             ` chen tang
2013-08-23 23:56                                               ` chen tang

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