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From: Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/11] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 09:59:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPnjgZ3V1KS7POEhsvj63OSB29MUtyaZGBoFR8JGPnaN=-fXVw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdZa2O1MqCVT8q2P0u0ciXK+6HFbQQGXB_-chimg=FbzQg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi Linus,

On 11 August 2015 at 07:00, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> This binding differs from that of Linux. Update it and change existing
>> users.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
> (...)
>>  doc/device-tree-bindings/serial/pl01x.txt | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>
> So why does U-Boot have its own copy of any bindings at all?
>
> This is forking the ontology of who gets to define bindings I fear.
> It's a bit like have two bibles both claiming to be the word of god.
> (OK maybe a hyperbolic statement, but you see what I mean.)
>
> Can't we just have the bindings in the Linux kernel tree please?

Is there any plan to move them out of Linux and put them in a separate place?

We should make an effort to sync the device tree files with Linux periodically.

I quite like having the bindings in U-Boot since it makes people think
about what they are adding. Are you worried that the bindings in
U-Boot might evolve separately? Certainly there has been some of that.

However I recently sent a series to add a few things for Raspberry Pi
("arm: rpi: Device tree modifications for U-Boot") and I don't yet see
a willingness to add what some see as 'U-Boot things' to the binding.
How do we address that?

Regards,
Simon
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From: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 01/11] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 09:59:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPnjgZ3V1KS7POEhsvj63OSB29MUtyaZGBoFR8JGPnaN=-fXVw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdZa2O1MqCVT8q2P0u0ciXK+6HFbQQGXB_-chimg=FbzQg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Linus,

On 11 August 2015 at 07:00, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> This binding differs from that of Linux. Update it and change existing
>> users.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> (...)
>>  doc/device-tree-bindings/serial/pl01x.txt | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>
> So why does U-Boot have its own copy of any bindings at all?
>
> This is forking the ontology of who gets to define bindings I fear.
> It's a bit like have two bibles both claiming to be the word of god.
> (OK maybe a hyperbolic statement, but you see what I mean.)
>
> Can't we just have the bindings in the Linux kernel tree please?

Is there any plan to move them out of Linux and put them in a separate place?

We should make an effort to sync the device tree files with Linux periodically.

I quite like having the bindings in U-Boot since it makes people think
about what they are adding. Are you worried that the bindings in
U-Boot might evolve separately? Certainly there has been some of that.

However I recently sent a series to add a few things for Raspberry Pi
("arm: rpi: Device tree modifications for U-Boot") and I don't yet see
a willingness to add what some see as 'U-Boot things' to the binding.
How do we address that?

Regards,
Simon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-13 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-07 13:42 [PATCH v3 00/11] arm: rpi: Enable USB and Ethernet driver model Raspberry Pi Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] " Simon Glass
     [not found] ` <1438954951-13329-1-git-send-email-sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-07 13:42   ` [PATCH v3 01/11] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42     ` [U-Boot] " Simon Glass
2015-08-11  3:57     ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-11  3:57       ` [U-Boot] " Stephen Warren
     [not found]       ` <55C972BA.5050706-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-11  4:11         ` Simon Glass
2015-08-11  4:11           ` [U-Boot] " Simon Glass
     [not found]           ` <CAPnjgZ2XdOPGMfAPHGy4c7vuc+exrirXkZ5DF+wHKGmAPg8ZjA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-11  4:24             ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-11  4:24               ` [U-Boot] " Stephen Warren
     [not found]     ` <1438954951-13329-2-git-send-email-sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-11 13:00       ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-11 13:00         ` [U-Boot] " Linus Walleij
     [not found]         ` <CACRpkdZa2O1MqCVT8q2P0u0ciXK+6HFbQQGXB_-chimg=FbzQg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-13 15:59           ` Simon Glass [this message]
2015-08-13 15:59             ` Simon Glass
     [not found]             ` <CAPnjgZ3V1KS7POEhsvj63OSB29MUtyaZGBoFR8JGPnaN=-fXVw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-13 16:02               ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-13 16:02                 ` [U-Boot] " Stephen Warren
2015-08-13 18:13                 ` Tom Rini
2015-08-13 18:13                   ` [U-Boot] " Tom Rini
2015-08-13 19:04                   ` Ian Lepore
2015-08-13 19:04                     ` Ian Lepore
     [not found]                     ` <1439492679.242.35.camel-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-13 19:37                       ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-13 19:37                         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                         ` <55CCF20C.9000104-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-14  7:43                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-14  7:43                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-14 10:22                       ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-14 10:22                         ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-14 14:27                       ` Rob Herring
2015-08-14 14:27                         ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                         ` <CAL_JsqL8tcECpdwCxatd6ULS8z0UU160OXr8S0ZGTTRRrUaeSQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-14 17:45                           ` Ian Lepore
2015-08-14 17:45                             ` Ian Lepore
     [not found]                             ` <1439574356.242.60.camel-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-14 18:42                               ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-14 18:42                                 ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-17  7:46                               ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-17  7:46                                 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-14 19:32                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2015-08-14 19:32                       ` [U-Boot] " Pantelis Antoniou
2015-08-13 22:24               ` Rob Herring
2015-08-13 22:24                 ` [U-Boot] " Rob Herring
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 02/11] arm: rpi: Define CONFIG_TFTP_TSIZE to show tftp size info Simon Glass
2015-08-11  3:58   ` Stephen Warren
2016-05-23 15:39     ` Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 03/11] arm: rpi: Bring in kernel device tree files Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 04/11] arm: rpi: Device tree modifications for U-Boot Simon Glass
2015-08-11  4:00   ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-11  4:17     ` Simon Glass
2015-08-11  4:25       ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-12 13:28         ` Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 05/11] arm: rpi: Add device tree files for Raspberry Pi 2 Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 06/11] arm: rpi: Enable device tree control for Rasberry Pi Simon Glass
2015-08-11  3:47   ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-14 19:20     ` Simon Glass
2015-08-15  3:32       ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-15 13:59         ` Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 07/11] arm: rpi: Enable device tree control for Rasberry Pi 2 Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 08/11] arm: rpi: Drop the UART console platform data Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 09/11] arm: rpi: Drop the GPIO " Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 10/11] arm: rpi: Move to driver model for USB Simon Glass
2015-08-07 13:42 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 11/11] arm: rpi: Use driver model for Ethernet Simon Glass

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