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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Jacob Jun Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Ravi V Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] x86/traps: Demand-populate PASID MSR via #GP
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 09:05:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YUwnHDUKfvNKQgPF@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5944e66-0552-d919-bd11-d9eced48bb45@intel.com>

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 02:33:09PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 9/22/21 2:11 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>> +static bool fixup_pasid_exception(void)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	if (!cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_ENQCMD))
> >>> +		return false;
> >>> +
> >>> +	return __fixup_pasid_exception();
> >>> +}
> > That is, shouldn't the above at the very least decode the instruction
> > causing the #GP and check it's this ENQCMD thing?
> 
> To reiterate: on systems with no X86_FEATURE_ENQCMD, there is basically
> no additional overhead.  It isn't worth doing decoding there.

Well, they won't get past the X86_FEATURE check anyway, so who cares.

> On systems with X86_FEATURE_ENQCMD, but where it is unused, the #GP
> handler gets some new overhead on every #GP.  Basically:
> 
> > +	pasid = current->mm->pasid;
> > +	if (pasid == PASID_DISABLED)
> > +		return false;
> 
> That's still pretty cheap.  Probably not worth doing decoding there either.
> 
> So, that leaves us with if you are:
> 1. On system with X86_FEATURE_ENQCMD
> 2. In a process/mm that has an allocated pasid
> 3. Your *task* does not have the MSR set
> 4. You get a #GP for some other reason
> 
> Then, you'll do this double-#GP dance.
> 
> So, instruction decoding could absolutely be added between steps 3 and
> 4.  It would absolutely save doing the double-#GP in cases where 1/2/3
> are met.  But, I wouldn't move it up above and of the 1/2/3 checks
> because they're way cheaper than instruction decoding.
> 
> In the end, it didn't seem worth it to me to be optimizing a relatively
> rare path which 99% of the time ends up in a crash.
> 
> If you want instruction decoding in here, though, just say the word. :)

Instruction deoding makes it obvious you only consume your own #GP, the
alternative is a comment that explains this reasoning. Having neither
gets you confusion as per this thread.

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Ravi V Shankar <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Jacob Jun Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] x86/traps: Demand-populate PASID MSR via #GP
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 09:05:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YUwnHDUKfvNKQgPF@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5944e66-0552-d919-bd11-d9eced48bb45@intel.com>

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 02:33:09PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 9/22/21 2:11 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>> +static bool fixup_pasid_exception(void)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	if (!cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_ENQCMD))
> >>> +		return false;
> >>> +
> >>> +	return __fixup_pasid_exception();
> >>> +}
> > That is, shouldn't the above at the very least decode the instruction
> > causing the #GP and check it's this ENQCMD thing?
> 
> To reiterate: on systems with no X86_FEATURE_ENQCMD, there is basically
> no additional overhead.  It isn't worth doing decoding there.

Well, they won't get past the X86_FEATURE check anyway, so who cares.

> On systems with X86_FEATURE_ENQCMD, but where it is unused, the #GP
> handler gets some new overhead on every #GP.  Basically:
> 
> > +	pasid = current->mm->pasid;
> > +	if (pasid == PASID_DISABLED)
> > +		return false;
> 
> That's still pretty cheap.  Probably not worth doing decoding there either.
> 
> So, that leaves us with if you are:
> 1. On system with X86_FEATURE_ENQCMD
> 2. In a process/mm that has an allocated pasid
> 3. Your *task* does not have the MSR set
> 4. You get a #GP for some other reason
> 
> Then, you'll do this double-#GP dance.
> 
> So, instruction decoding could absolutely be added between steps 3 and
> 4.  It would absolutely save doing the double-#GP in cases where 1/2/3
> are met.  But, I wouldn't move it up above and of the 1/2/3 checks
> because they're way cheaper than instruction decoding.
> 
> In the end, it didn't seem worth it to me to be optimizing a relatively
> rare path which 99% of the time ends up in a crash.
> 
> If you want instruction decoding in here, though, just say the word. :)

Instruction deoding makes it obvious you only consume your own #GP, the
alternative is a comment that explains this reasoning. Having neither
gets you confusion as per this thread.
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Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-20 19:23 [PATCH 0/8] Re-enable ENQCMD and PASID MSR Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23 ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23 ` [PATCH 1/8] iommu/vt-d: Clean up unused PASID updating functions Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23   ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-29  7:34   ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-29  7:34     ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-30  0:40     ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-30  0:40       ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86/process: Clear PASID state for a newly forked/cloned thread Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23   ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23 ` [PATCH 3/8] sched: Define and initialize a flag to identify valid PASID in the task Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23   ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23 ` [PATCH 4/8] x86/traps: Demand-populate PASID MSR via #GP Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23   ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-22 21:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-22 21:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-22 21:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-22 21:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-22 21:26       ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-22 21:26         ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-23  7:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-23  7:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-22 21:33       ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-22 21:33         ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-23  7:05         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2021-09-23  7:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-22 21:36       ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-22 21:36         ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-22 23:39     ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-22 23:39       ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-23 17:14     ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-23 17:14       ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-24 13:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-24 13:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-24 15:39         ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-24 15:39           ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  9:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29  9:00             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-23 11:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-23 11:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-23 23:17   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-23 23:17     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-24  2:56     ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-24  2:56       ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-24  5:12       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-24  5:12         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-27 21:02     ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-27 21:02       ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-27 23:51       ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-27 23:51         ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-28 18:50         ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-28 18:50           ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-28 19:19           ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-28 19:19             ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-28 20:28             ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-28 20:28               ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-28 20:55               ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-28 20:55                 ` Dave Hansen
2021-09-28 23:10                 ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-28 23:10                   ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-28 23:50                   ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-28 23:50                     ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-29  0:08                     ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  0:08                       ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  0:26                       ` Yu, Fenghua
2021-09-29  0:26                         ` Yu, Fenghua
2021-09-29  1:06                         ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  1:06                           ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  1:16                           ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-29  1:16                             ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-29  2:11                             ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  2:11                               ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  1:56                       ` Yu, Fenghua
2021-09-29  1:56                         ` Yu, Fenghua
2021-09-29  2:15                         ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  2:15                           ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 16:58                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-29 16:58                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-29 17:07                     ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 17:07                       ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 17:48                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-29 17:48                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-20 19:23 ` [PATCH 5/8] x86/mmu: Add mm-based PASID refcounting Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23   ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-23  5:43   ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-23  5:43     ` Lu Baolu
2021-09-30  0:44     ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-30  0:44       ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-23 14:36   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-23 14:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-23 16:40     ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-23 16:40       ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-23 17:48       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-23 17:48         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-24 13:18         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-24 13:18           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-24 16:12           ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-24 16:12             ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-24 23:03             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-24 23:03               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-24 23:11               ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-24 23:11                 ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29  9:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29  9:54                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-29 12:28                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-29 12:28                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-29 16:51                   ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 16:51                     ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 17:07                     ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-29 17:07                       ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-29 16:59                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-29 16:59                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-29 17:15                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-29 17:15                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-29 17:41                       ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 17:41                         ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 17:46                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-29 17:46                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-29 18:07                         ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-29 18:07                           ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-29 18:31                           ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 18:31                             ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-29 20:07                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-29 20:07                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-24 16:12           ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-24 16:12             ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-25 23:13             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-25 23:13               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-09-28 16:36               ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-28 16:36                 ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-23 23:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-23 23:09     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-23 23:22     ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-23 23:22       ` Luck, Tony
2021-09-24  5:17       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-24  5:17         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-09-20 19:23 ` [PATCH 6/8] x86/cpufeatures: Re-enable ENQCMD Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23   ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23 ` [PATCH 7/8] tools/objtool: Check for use of the ENQCMD instruction in the kernel Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23   ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-22 21:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-22 21:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-22 23:44     ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-22 23:44       ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-23  7:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-23  7:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-09-23 15:26         ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-23 15:26           ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-24  0:55           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-09-24  0:55             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-09-24  0:57             ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-24  0:57               ` Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23 ` [PATCH 8/8] docs: x86: Change documentation for SVA (Shared Virtual Addressing) Fenghua Yu
2021-09-20 19:23   ` Fenghua Yu

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