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From: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>
To: Martin Lau <kafai@fb.com>
Cc: "bpf\@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"netdev\@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kernel-team\@cloudflare.com" <kernel-team@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next 0/5] Extend SOCKMAP to store listening sockets
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:35:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zk9oxo1.fsf@cloudflare.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191028055247.bh5bctgxfvmr3zjh@kafai-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 06:52 AM CET, Martin Lau wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 01:37:25PM +0200, Jakub Sitnicki wrote:
>> This patch set is a follow up on a suggestion from LPC '19 discussions to
>> make SOCKMAP (or a new map type derived from it) a generic type for storing
>> established as well as listening sockets.
>> We found ourselves in need of a map type that keeps references to listening
>> sockets when working on making the socket lookup programmable, aka BPF
>> inet_lookup [1].  Initially we repurposed REUSEPORT_SOCKARRAY but found it
>> problematic to extend due to being tightly coupled with reuseport
>> logic (see slides [2]).
>> So we've turned our attention to SOCKMAP instead.
>> As it turns out the changes needed to make SOCKMAP suitable for storing
>> listening sockets are self-contained and have use outside of programming
>> the socket lookup. Hence this patch set.
>> With these patches SOCKMAP can be used in SK_REUSEPORT BPF programs as a
>> drop-in replacement for REUSEPORT_SOCKARRAY for TCP. This can hopefully
>> lead to code consolidation between the two map types in the future.
> What is the plan for UDP support in sockmap?

It's on our road-map because without SOCKMAP support for UDP we won't be
able to move away from TPROXY [1] and custom SO_BINDTOPREFIX extension
[2] for steering new UDP flows to receiving sockets. Also we would like
to look into using SOCKMAP for connected UDP socket splicing in the
future [3].

I was planning to split work as follows:

1. SOCKMAP support for listening sockets (this series)
2. programmable socket lookup for TCP (cut-down version of [4])
3. SOCKMAP support for UDP (work not started)
4. programmable socket lookup for UDP (rest of [4])

I'm open to suggestions on how to organize it.

>> Having said that, the main intention here is to lay groundwork for using
>> SOCKMAP in the next iteration of programmable socket lookup patches.
> What may be the minimal to get only lookup work for UDP sockmap?
> .close() and .unhash()?

John would know better. I haven't tried doing it yet.

From just reading the code - override the two proto ops you mentioned,
close and unhash, and adapt the socket checks in SOCKMAP.


[1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/how-we-built-spectrum/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/1458699966-3752-1-git-send-email-gilberto.bertin@gmail.com/
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20190828072250.29828-1-jakub@cloudflare.com/
[4] https://blog.cloudflare.com/sockmap-tcp-splicing-of-the-future/

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-28 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-22 11:37 Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-22 11:37 ` [RFC bpf-next 1/5] bpf, sockmap: Let BPF helpers use lookup operation on SOCKMAP Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-24 16:59   ` John Fastabend
2019-10-22 11:37 ` [RFC bpf-next 2/5] bpf, sockmap: Allow inserting listening TCP sockets into SOCKMAP Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-24 17:06   ` John Fastabend
2019-10-25  9:41     ` Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-22 11:37 ` [RFC bpf-next 3/5] bpf, sockmap: Don't let child socket inherit psock or its ops on copy Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-22 11:37 ` [RFC bpf-next 4/5] bpf: Allow selecting reuseport socket from a SOCKMAP Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-22 11:37 ` [RFC bpf-next 5/5] selftests/bpf: Extend SK_REUSEPORT tests to cover SOCKMAP Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-24 16:12 ` [RFC bpf-next 0/5] Extend SOCKMAP to store listening sockets Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-24 16:56 ` John Fastabend
2019-10-25  9:26   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-25 14:18     ` John Fastabend
2019-10-28  5:52 ` Martin Lau
2019-10-28 12:35   ` Jakub Sitnicki [this message]
2019-10-28 19:04     ` John Fastabend
2019-10-29  8:56       ` Jakub Sitnicki
2019-10-28 20:42     ` Martin Lau
2019-10-28 21:05       ` John Fastabend
2019-10-28 21:38         ` Martin Lau
2019-10-29  8:52           ` Jakub Sitnicki

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