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From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
To: Yury Norov <ynorov@caviumnetworks.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC3 nowrap: PATCH v7 00/18] ILP32 for ARM64
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 07:52:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161130065253.GA21237@angband.pl> (raw)
Message-ID: <20161130065253.fPTrZ3XSSFQ6yHUJRb2mbzMLm8aH4aG7v5oFvc3_wBg@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161130050209.GB18796@yury-N73SV>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:32:09AM +0530, Yury Norov wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:32:59PM +0300, Yury Norov wrote:
> > This series enables aarch64 with ilp32 mode, and as supporting work,
> > introduces ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T configuration option that is enabled for
> > existing 32-bit architectures but disabled for new arches (so 64-bit
> > off_t is is used by new userspace).
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Steve Ellcey submitted glibc patches for ILP32:
> https://www.sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2016-11/msg01071.html
> It implicitly assumes that kernel clears top halves of registers for
> all syscalls in assembly entry. That patches are going to be taken.
> It it happens, we will have no choice on kernel side how to clear top
> halves anymore.

Since a while ago, there's a package "arch-test" in Debian that empirically
enumerates architectures executable by the running kernel (and loaded
binfmts), by trying small test programs for each.  The list of architectures
it knows does include arm64ilp32.

For most archs the test is just {write(1, "ok\n"); _exit(0);} unless there's
some difference from baseline that should be checked for, like dmb (ARMv7)
on armhf or mtvsrd (POWER8) on ppc64el.  I could scribble in the top half of
a register to test the delousing, but it's not like alternate versions of
the ABI are expected in the wild...


There's another issue: name.  A stalled request to add it to dpkg's cputable
(https://bugs.debian.org/824742) uses "arm64ilp32" and "arm64ilp32be" which
are unwieldy.  Even the discussion uses "ilp32" -- probably too generic. 
https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/arm64-ilp32 mentions both.  I've heard
"a32" somewhere.  I have no stake here (I'm on the CC list as a x32 not arm
porter...), but if you want to choose a color for this bikeshed, the time
is now.


Meow!
-- 
The bill declaring Jesus as the King of Poland fails to specify whether
the addition is at the top or end of the list of kings.  What should the
historians do?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-30  6:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-21 20:32 [RFC3 nowrap: PATCH v7 00/18] ILP32 for ARM64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:32 ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 01/18] 32-bit ABI: introduce ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T config option Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-24 16:30   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-10-24 16:30     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-10-24 22:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-10-27  9:29       ` Yury Norov
2016-10-27  9:29         ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 02/18] arm64: ilp32: add documentation on the ILP32 ABI for ARM64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-24 16:36   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-10-24 16:36     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-10-27  9:40     ` Yury Norov
2016-10-27  9:40       ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 03/18] arm64: rename COMPAT to AARCH32_EL0 in Kconfig Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 04/18] arm64: ensure the kernel is compiled for LP64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 05/18] arm64:uapi: set __BITS_PER_LONG correctly for ILP32 and LP64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 06/18] thread: move thread bits accessors to separated file Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 07/18] arm64: introduce is_a32_task and is_a32_thread (for AArch32 compat) Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 08/18] arm64: ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task, thread} and TIF_32BIT_AARCH64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` [PATCH 08/18] arm64: ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task,thread} " Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 09/18] arm64: introduce binfmt_elf32.c Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-12-05 15:10   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-14  9:39     ` Yury Norov
2016-12-14  9:39       ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 10/18] arm64: ilp32: introduce binfmt_ilp32.c Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-12-05 15:38   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-05 15:38     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-21 18:56     ` Yury Norov
2016-12-21 18:56       ` Yury Norov
2017-01-06 14:48       ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-06 14:48         ` Catalin Marinas
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 11/18] arm64: ilp32: share aarch32 syscall handlers Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-12-05 17:12   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-06  7:32     ` Yury Norov
2016-12-06  7:32       ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 12/18] arm64: ilp32: add sys_ilp32.c and a separate table (in entry.S) to use it Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 13/18] arm64: signal: share lp64 signal routines to ilp32 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 14/18] arm64: signal32: move ilp32 and aarch32 common code to separated file Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-12-05 16:18   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-05 16:18     ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-06  9:36     ` Yury Norov
2016-12-06  9:36       ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 15/18] arm64: ilp32: introduce ilp32-specific handlers for sigframe and ucontext Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 16/18] arm64: ptrace: handle ptrace_request differently for aarch32 and ilp32 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-12-05 16:34   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-06  6:25     ` Yury Norov
2016-12-06  6:30       ` Yury Norov
2016-12-06  6:30         ` Yury Norov
2016-12-07 16:59       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-07 16:59         ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-07 20:40         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-07 20:40           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-08 13:12           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-05 20:40           ` Yury Norov
2017-01-05 20:40             ` Yury Norov
2017-01-06 14:36             ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-06 14:36               ` Catalin Marinas
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 17/18] arm64:ilp32: add vdso-ilp32 and use for signal return Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 18/18] arm64:ilp32: add ARM64_ILP32 to Kconfig Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2016-10-28 12:46 ` ILP32 for ARM64 - testing with lmbench Yury Norov
2016-11-17  3:28   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-11-17  3:28     ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-11-17  5:02     ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2016-11-17  5:02       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2016-11-17  7:48       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-11-17  7:48         ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05 10:16         ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05 10:16           ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05 14:13           ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-05 14:13             ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-11 12:08             ` Yury Norov
2016-12-11 12:08               ` Yury Norov
2016-11-07  8:23 ` ILP32 for ARM64: testing with glibc testsuite Yury Norov
2016-11-07  8:23   ` Yury Norov
2016-11-09  9:56   ` Yury Norov
2016-11-09  9:56     ` Yury Norov
2016-11-16 11:22     ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2016-11-16 11:22       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2016-11-17 15:50       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-11-17 15:50         ` Catalin Marinas
2016-11-17 21:45       ` Steve Ellcey
2016-11-17 21:45         ` Steve Ellcey
2016-12-05  9:58         ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05  9:58           ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05 10:07           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-05 10:07             ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-05 10:24             ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05 10:24               ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-06  5:29               ` Yury Norov
2016-12-06  5:29                 ` Yury Norov
2016-12-05 19:33             ` Steve Ellcey
2016-12-05 19:33               ` Steve Ellcey
2016-12-06  8:31               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-06  8:31                 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-11-30  5:02 ` [RFC3 nowrap: PATCH v7 00/18] ILP32 for ARM64 Yury Norov
2016-11-30  5:02   ` Yury Norov
2016-11-30  6:52   ` Adam Borowski [this message]
2016-11-30  6:52     ` Adam Borowski

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