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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
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	brijesh.ksingh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 21/40] KVM: SVM: Add initial SEV-SNP support
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:31:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YPHekXKC/XhWYlZE@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae47ae6b-16b1-f282-38d5-429d813243a8@amd.com>

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, Brijesh Singh wrote:
> 
> On 7/16/21 1:00 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021, Brijesh Singh wrote:
> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> >> index 411ed72f63af..abca2b9dee83 100644
> >> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> >> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> >> @@ -52,9 +52,14 @@ module_param_named(sev, sev_enabled, bool, 0444);
> >>  /* enable/disable SEV-ES support */
> >>  static bool sev_es_enabled = true;
> >>  module_param_named(sev_es, sev_es_enabled, bool, 0444);
> >> +
> >> +/* enable/disable SEV-SNP support */
> >> +static bool sev_snp_enabled = true;
> > Is it safe to incrementally introduce SNP support?  Or should the module param
> > be hidden until all support is in place?  E.g. what will happen when KVM allows
> > userspace to create SNP guests but doesn't yet have the RMP management added?
> 
> The SNP support depends on the RMP management. At least the patch
> ordering in this series adds the RMP management first then updates
> drivers to use the RMP specific APIs.

Yep, got that.

> If RMP is not initialized due to someone not picking the commits in the
> order, then SNP guest creation will fail.

That's not what I was asking.  My question is if KVM will break/fail if someone
runs a KVM build with SNP enabled halfway through the series.  E.g. if I make a
KVM build at patch 22, "KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SNP_INIT command", what will happen if
I attempt to launch an SNP guest?  Obviously it won't fully succeed, but will KVM
fail gracefully and do all the proper cleanup?  Repeat the question for all patches
between this one and the final patch of the series.

SNP simply not working is ok, but if KVM explodes or does weird things without
"full" SNP support, then at minimum the module param should be off by default
until it's safe to enable.  E.g. for the TDP MMU, I believe the approach was to
put all the machinery in place but not actually let userspace flip on the module
param until the full implementation was ready.  Bisecting and testing the
individual commits is a bit painful because it requires modifying KVM code, but
on the plus side unrelated bisects won't stumble into a half-baked state.

> >> +module_param_named(sev_snp, sev_snp_enabled, bool, 0444);
> >>  #else
> >>  #define sev_enabled false
> >>  #define sev_es_enabled false
> >> +#define sev_snp_enabled  false
> >>  #endif /* CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV */
> >>  
> >>  #define AP_RESET_HOLD_NONE		0
> >> @@ -1825,6 +1830,7 @@ void __init sev_hardware_setup(void)
> >>  {
> >>  #ifdef CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV
> >>  	unsigned int eax, ebx, ecx, edx, sev_asid_count, sev_es_asid_count;
> >> +	bool sev_snp_supported = false;
> >>  	bool sev_es_supported = false;
> >>  	bool sev_supported = false;
> >>  
> >> @@ -1888,9 +1894,21 @@ void __init sev_hardware_setup(void)
> >>  	pr_info("SEV-ES supported: %u ASIDs\n", sev_es_asid_count);
> >>  	sev_es_supported = true;
> >>  
> >> +	/* SEV-SNP support requested? */
> >> +	if (!sev_snp_enabled)
> >> +		goto out;
> >> +
> >> +	/* Is SEV-SNP enabled? */
> >> +	if (!cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_SEV_SNP))
> > Random question, why use cpu_feature_enabled?  Did something change in cpufeatures
> > that prevents using boot_cpu_has() here?
> 
> 
> During the boot the kernel initialize the RMP table. If RMP table
> initialization fail, then X86_FEATURE_SEV_SNP is cleared. In that case,
> the cpu_feature_enabled() should return false. The idea is,
> cpu_feature_enabled() will be set only when the RMP table is
> successfully initialized and SYSCFG.SNP is set.

Ya, got that, but again not what I was asking :-)  Why use cpu_feature_enabled()
instead of boot_cpu_has()?  As a random developer, I would fully expect that
boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_SEV_SNP) is true iff SNP is fully enabled by the kernel.

> >> +		goto out;
> >> +
> >> +	pr_info("SEV-SNP supported: %u ASIDs\n", min_sev_asid - 1);
> > Use sev_es_asid_count instead of manually recomputing the same; the latter
> > obfuscates the fact that ES and SNP share the same ASID pool.
> >
> > Even better would be to report ES+SNP together, otherwise the user could easily
> > interpret ES and SNP having separate ASID pools.  And IMO the gotos for SNP are
> > overkill, e.g.
> >
> > 	sev_es_supported = true;
> > 	sev_snp_supported = sev_snp_enabled &&
> > 			    cpu_feature_enabled(X86_FEATURE_SEV_SNP);
> >
> > 	pr_info("SEV-ES %ssupported: %u ASIDs\n",
> > 		sev_snp_supported ? "and SEV-SNP " : "", sev_es_asid_count);
> >
> >> +static inline bool sev_snp_guest(struct kvm *kvm)
> >> +{
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV
> >> +	struct kvm_sev_info *sev = &to_kvm_svm(kvm)->sev_info;
> >> +
> >> +	return sev_es_guest(kvm) && sev->snp_active;
> > Can't this be reduced to:
> >
> > 	return to_kvm_svm(kvm)->sev_info.snp_active;
> >
> > KVM should never set snp_active without also setting es_active.
> 
> 
> The approach here is similar to SEV/ES. IIRC, it was done mainly to
> avoid adding dead code when CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV is disabled.

But this is already in an #ifdef, checking sev_es_guest() is pointless.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-16 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 176+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-07 18:35 [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 00/40] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 01/40] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle AP reset MSR protocol Brijesh Singh
2021-07-14 20:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15  7:39     ` Joerg Roedel
2021-07-15 13:42     ` Tom Lendacky
2021-07-15 15:45       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15 17:05         ` Tom Lendacky
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 02/40] KVM: SVM: Provide the Hypervisor Feature support VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-07-14 20:37   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-14 21:00     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 03/40] x86/cpufeatures: Add SEV-SNP CPU feature Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 04/40] x86/sev: Add the host SEV-SNP initialization support Brijesh Singh
2021-07-14 21:07   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-14 22:02     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-14 22:06       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-14 22:11         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 05/40] x86/sev: Add RMP entry lookup helpers Brijesh Singh
2021-07-15 18:37   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15 19:28     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 17:22       ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-20 22:06         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20 23:10           ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 06/40] x86/sev: Add helper functions for RMPUPDATE and PSMASH instruction Brijesh Singh
2021-07-12 18:44   ` Peter Gonda
2021-07-12 19:00     ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-15 18:56       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15 19:08         ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-15 19:18           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 07/40] x86/sev: Split the physmap when adding the page in RMP table Brijesh Singh
2021-07-14 22:25   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15 17:05     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-15 17:51       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15 18:14         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-15 18:39           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15 19:38             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-15 22:01               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15 22:11                 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-30 11:31               ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-07-30 16:10                 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 08/40] x86/traps: Define RMP violation #PF error code Brijesh Singh
2021-07-15 19:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-15 19:16     ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 09/40] x86/fault: Add support to dump RMP entry on fault Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 19:21   ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08 15:02     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-08 15:30       ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08 16:48         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-08 16:58           ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08 17:11             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-08 17:15               ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 10/40] x86/fault: Add support to handle the RMP fault for user address Brijesh Singh
2021-07-08 16:16   ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-12 15:43     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-12 16:00       ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-12 16:11         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-12 16:15           ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-12 16:24             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-12 16:29               ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-12 16:49                 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-15 21:53                   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-30 16:00   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-07-30 16:31     ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 11/40] crypto:ccp: Define the SEV-SNP commands Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 12/40] crypto: ccp: Add support to initialize the AMD-SP for SEV-SNP Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 13/40] crypto: ccp: Shutdown SNP firmware on kexec Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 14/40] crypto:ccp: Provide APIs to issue SEV-SNP commands Brijesh Singh
2021-07-08 18:56   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 15/40] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy TMR allocation when SNP is enabled Brijesh Singh
2021-07-14 13:22   ` Marc Orr
2021-07-14 16:45     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-14 18:14       ` Marc Orr
2021-07-15 23:48   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 12:55     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 15:35       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 15:47         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 16/40] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy SEV command " Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 17/40] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_PLATFORM_STATUS command Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 18/40] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_{SET,GET}_EXT_CONFIG command Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 19/40] crypto: ccp: provide APIs to query extended attestation report Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 20/40] KVM: SVM: Make AVIC backing, VMSA and VMCB memory allocation SNP safe Brijesh Singh
2021-07-14 13:35   ` Marc Orr
2021-07-14 16:47     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-20 18:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-03 14:38     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 21/40] KVM: SVM: Add initial SEV-SNP support Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 18:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 18:46     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 19:31       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2021-07-16 21:03         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 22/40] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SNP_INIT command Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 19:33   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 21:25     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 20:24       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-07 18:35 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 23/40] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_START command Brijesh Singh
2021-07-12 18:45   ` Peter Gonda
2021-07-16 19:43   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 21:42     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 24/40] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE command Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 20:01   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 22:00     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 20:51       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 21:34         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 21:36           ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 25/40] KVM: SVM: Reclaim the guest pages when SEV-SNP VM terminates Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 20:09   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 22:16     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-17  0:46       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 12:55         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 17:18           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 18:34             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 19:03               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 19:14                 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 19:37                 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-20 16:40                   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20 18:23                     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 26/40] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_FINISH command Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 20:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 22:48     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 16:54       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 18:29         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 19:14           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 19:49             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 20:13               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-21 17:53         ` Marc Orr
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 27/40] KVM: X86: Add kvm_x86_ops to get the max page level for the TDP Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 19:19   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-16 20:41     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-20 19:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20 20:06         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 28/40] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_mmu_map_tdp_page() for use by SEV Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 18:15   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 29/40] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_mmu_get_tdp_walk() for SEV-SNP use Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 30/40] KVM: X86: Define new RMP check related #NPF error bits Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 20:22   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-17  0:34     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 31/40] KVM: X86: update page-fault trace to log the 64-bit error code Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 20:25   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-17  0:35     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 32/40] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 20:45   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-17  0:44     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 20:04       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 33/40] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 21:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 14:19     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 18:55       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 19:15         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-08-13 16:32         ` Borislav Petkov
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 34/40] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle " Brijesh Singh
2021-07-16 21:14   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-19 14:24     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 35/40] KVM: Add arch hooks to track the host write to guest memory Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 23:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20 15:15     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 36/40] KVM: X86: Export the kvm_zap_gfn_range() for the SNP use Brijesh Singh
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 37/40] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle the RMP nested page fault Brijesh Singh
2021-07-20  0:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20 17:55     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-20 22:31       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20 23:53         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-21 20:15           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 38/40] KVM: SVM: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Brijesh Singh
2021-07-19 22:50   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20 14:37     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-20 16:28       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-20 18:21         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-07-20 22:09           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 39/40] KVM: SVM: Use a VMSA physical address variable for populating VMCB Brijesh Singh
2021-07-21  0:20   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-21 16:26     ` Tom Lendacky
2021-07-07 18:36 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 40/40] KVM: SVM: Support SEV-SNP AP Creation NAE event Brijesh Singh
2021-07-21  0:01   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-07-21 17:47     ` Tom Lendacky
2021-07-21 19:52       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-08-20 14:44         ` Tom Lendacky
2021-07-08 15:40 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v4 00/40] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Dave Hansen

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