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From: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Steve Longerbeam <slongerbeam@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/24] add mux and video interface bridge entity functions
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:27:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1486376840.3005.28.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6948005.DnfziI9GIJ@avalon>

On Sun, 2017-02-05 at 17:36 +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> Thank you for the patch
> 
> On Friday 06 Jan 2017 18:11:30 Steve Longerbeam wrote:
> > From: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/media/uapi/mediactl/media-types.rst | 22 ++++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/uapi/linux/media.h                        |  6 ++++++
> >  2 files changed, 28 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/media/uapi/mediactl/media-types.rst
> > b/Documentation/media/uapi/mediactl/media-types.rst index 3e03dc2..023be29
> > 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/media/uapi/mediactl/media-types.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/media/uapi/mediactl/media-types.rst
> > @@ -298,6 +298,28 @@ Types and flags used to represent the media graph
> > elements received on its sink pad and outputs the statistics data on
> >  	  its source pad.
> > 
> > +    -  ..  row 29
> > +
> > +       ..  _MEDIA-ENT-F-MUX:
> > +
> > +       -  ``MEDIA_ENT_F_MUX``
> > +
> > +       - Video multiplexer. An entity capable of multiplexing must have at
> > +         least two sink pads and one source pad, and must pass the video
> > +         frame(s) received from the active sink pad to the source pad.
> > Video
> > +         frame(s) from the inactive sink pads are discarded.
> 
> Apart from the comment made by Hans regarding the macro name, this looks good 
> to me.
> 
> > +    -  ..  row 30
> > +
> > +       ..  _MEDIA-ENT-F-VID-IF-BRIDGE:
> > +
> > +       -  ``MEDIA_ENT_F_VID_IF_BRIDGE``
> > +
> > +       - Video interface bridge. A video interface bridge entity must have
> > at
> > +         least one sink pad and one source pad. It receives video frame(s)
> > on
> > +         its sink pad in one bus format (HDMI, eDP, MIPI CSI-2, ...) and
> > +         converts them and outputs them on its source pad in another bus
> > format
> > +         (eDP, MIPI CSI-2, parallel, ...).
> 
> 
> The first sentence mentions *at least* one sink pad and one source pad, and 
> the second one refers to "its sink pad" and "its source pad". This is a bit 
> confusing. An easy option would be to require a single sink and a single 
> source pad, but that would exclude bridges that combine a multiplexer.

Would it be enough to just switch to plural?

"It receives video frame(s) on its sink pads in one bus format and
converts them and outputs them on its source pads in another bus
format"?

I fear if this is made too specific to single-input single-output
devices, a whole lot of multi-input devices will have to be split up
unnecessarily. Although in cases of freely configurable multiplexers, it
might also make sense to describe them as multiple entities. Especially
if they can run in parallel with different configurations.

> I also wonder whether "bridge" is the appropriate word here. Transceiver might 
> be a better choice, to insist on the fact that one of the two pads corresponds 
> to a physical interface that has special electrical properties (such as HDMI, 
> eDP, or CSI-2 that all require PHYs).

What media entity function would you suggest to use for the IPU CSI,
which basically is
 - a video interface bridge, because it converts media bus formats from
   an external (up to) 20-bit parallel bus to an internal 128-bit bus,
   with the option to either expand/compand/pack >8-bit per component
   pixel formats (so parts of a write pixel formatter)
 - also a video scaler, because it can crop and reduce width and/or
   height to 1/2 the original size

I wouldn't call it a transceiver, as it is completely contained inside
the SoC.

regards
Philipp


  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-06 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-07  2:11 [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] [media] dt-bindings: Add bindings for i.MX media driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:55   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 19:03     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 12:09       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 17:13         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: Add compatible, clocks, irqs to MIPI CSI-2 node Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:57   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 22:40     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: Add mipi_ipu1/2 multiplexers, mipi_csi, and their connections Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: add media device Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-sabrelite: remove erratum ERR006687 workaround Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:59   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabrelite: add OV5642 and OV5640 camera sensors Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 12:03   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 23:04     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 12:55       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 17:15         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:17         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-30 22:28   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-30 22:51   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-05 15:24     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-05 15:37       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabresd: " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: create i2cmux for i2c3 Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add reset-gpios property for max7310_b Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add pinctrl for gpt input capture Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-12 19:37   ` Tim Harvey
2017-01-12 23:40     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add the ADV7180 video decoder Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] add mux and video interface bridge entity functions Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 13:56   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-02-05 15:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06 10:27     ` Philipp Zabel [this message]
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] platform: add video-multiplexer subdevice driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-10  5:35   ` Rob Herring
2017-01-20 14:03   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24 12:02     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-25  2:07       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:48         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06  9:50           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-02-06 22:33             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06 23:10               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 10:26                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-07 10:41                   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-07 14:11                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-07 13:36                   ` Benoit Parrot
2017-02-07 20:50                     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-07 23:04                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-24 12:44   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-01-26  1:22     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 20:46   ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-08  9:47     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-08 10:05       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] UAPI: Add media UAPI Kbuild file Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] media: Add userspace header file for i.MX Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 12:05   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 23:13     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:50       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] media: Add i.MX media core driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 15:20   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-14 22:46     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 13:47       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23  2:31         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-23 11:13           ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-24  1:38             ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24  1:45               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:37                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-30 15:28             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]     ` <2b1d2418-1ad4-6373-cb07-c3aeab48187f@gmail.com>
2017-01-19  1:44       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:39         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 22:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 22:50   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-07  1:54     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] media: imx: Add CSI subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 15:03   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 21:15     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 10:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 11:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  0:31     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  0:58       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 15:51   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 16:48     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01  1:40       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 16:18   ` [PATCH] media: imx: csi: fix crop rectangle reset in sink set_fmt Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] media: imx: Add SMFC subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01 18:39   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01 18:52     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] media: imx: Add IC subdev drivers Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:29   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-25  2:39     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] media: imx: Add Camera Interface subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:38   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24  2:15     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 13:42     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 18:21       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 20:33         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 21:55           ` Ian Arkver
2017-01-31 22:04             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 22:33               ` Ian Arkver
2017-01-31 22:36               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 23:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 23:41                   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 22:35   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-07  1:52     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] media: imx: Add MIPI CSI-2 Receiver " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:01   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  9:49     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01  1:02       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  1:13         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:31   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  2:11     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01 23:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02  0:04     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 11:50   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-08 23:23     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-08 23:42       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-09 23:49         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-09 23:51           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-13  9:20             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-13 23:20               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-14 16:59                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-09  9:43       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] media: imx: Add MIPI CSI-2 OV5640 sensor " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:48   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-25 19:10     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 23:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  3:31     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 10:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-12 22:53     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] media: imx: Add Parallel OV5642 " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] ARM: imx_v6_v7_defconfig: Enable staging video4linux drivers Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-11 23:14 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver Tim Harvey
2017-01-12  3:22   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-12 21:13     ` Tim Harvey
2017-01-12 22:32       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 21:04         ` Tim Harvey
2017-01-20 13:52 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-20 16:31   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-20 18:40     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 20:39       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-23 11:00         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23 11:08           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24 11:28             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23 23:08           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:27             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-28 19:27               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 13:06               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 10:09                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 13:14                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 13:35                     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 14:04                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  1:06   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  2:06     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31  1:22   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31  9:49     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 10:21     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 11:00     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 23:43       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  0:23         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  1:54           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  9:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 13:54 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 14:25   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 15:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  1:26   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  9:30     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01 10:11       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01 10:42         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01 10:53           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02  0:19       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-03 14:41         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-03 17:56           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-15  2:27   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-15  9:33     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-02 17:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 17:31   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 17:56   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 18:26     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 18:58       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 19:12         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 22:29           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-03 18:49             ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-03 14:21           ` vb2 queue_setup documentation clarification (was "Re: [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver") Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-03 14:31             ` Hans Verkuil

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