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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Steve Longerbeam <slongerbeam@gmail.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com, shawnguo@kernel.org,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, fabio.estevam@nxp.com, mchehab@kernel.org,
	nick@shmanahar.org, markus.heiser@darmarIT.de,
	laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com, bparrot@ti.com,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, arnd@arndb.de, sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com,
	minghsiu.tsai@mediatek.com, tiffany.lin@mediatek.com,
	jean-christophe.trotin@st.com, horms+renesas@verge.net.au,
	niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se, robert.jarzmik@free.fr,
	songjun.wu@microchip.com, andrew-ct.chen@mediatek.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	Steve Longerbeam <steve_longerbeam@mentor.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:06:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170130130657.GR27312@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1485257269.3600.96.camel@pengutronix.de>

> The central issue seems to be that I think media pad links / media bus
> formats should describe physical links, such as parallel or serial
> buses, and the formats of pixels flowing through them, whereas Steve
> would like to extend them to describe software transports and in-memory
> formats.

This probably isn't the right place to attach this comment in this
thread, but... the issue of media bus formats matching physical buses
is an argument that I think is already lost.

For example, take the 10-bit bayer formats:

#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SBGGR10_1X10              0x3007
#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SGBRG10_1X10              0x300e
#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SGRBG10_1X10              0x300a
#define MEDIA_BUS_FMT_SRGGB10_1X10              0x300f

These are commonly used on CSI serial buses (see the smiapp driver for
example).  From the description at the top of the file, it says the
1X10 means that one pixel is transferred as one 10-bit sample.

However, the format on wire is somewhat different - four pixels are
transmitted over five bytes:

	P0	P1	P2	P3	P0	P1	P2	P3
	8-bit	8-bit	8-bit	8-bit	2-bit	2-bit	2-bit	2-bit

This gives two problems:
1) it doesn't fit in any sensible kind of "one pixel transferred as
   N M-bit samples" description because the pixel/sample values
   (depending how you look at them) are broken up.

2) changing this will probably be a user visible change, as things
   like smiapp are already in use.

So, I think what we actually have is the media bus formats describing
the _logical_ bus format.  Yes, one pixel is transferred as one 10-bit
sample in this case.

To help illustrate my point, consider the difference between
MEDIA_BUS_FMT_RGB565_1X16 and MEDIA_BUS_FMT_RGB565_2X8_BE or
MEDIA_BUS_FMT_RGB565_2X8_LE.  RGB565_1X16 means 1 pixel over an effective
16-bit wide bus (if it's not 16-bit, then it has to be broken up into
separate "samples".)  RGB565_2X8 means 1 pixel as two 8-bit samples.

So, the 10-bit bayer is 1 pixel as 1.25 bytes.  Or is it, over a serial
bus.  Using the RGB565 case, 10-bit bayer over a 4 lane CSI bus becomes
interesting:

	first byte	2nd	3rd
lane 1	P0 9:2		S0	P7 9:2
lane 2	P1 9:2		P4 9:2	S1
lane 3	P2 9:2		P5 9:2	P8 9:2
lane 4	P3 9:2		P6 9:2	P9 9:2

S0 = P0/P1/P2/P3 least significant two bits
S1 = P4/P5/P6/P7 least significant two bits

or 2 lane CSI:
	first byte	2nd	3rd	4th	5th
lane 1	P0 9:2		P2	S0	P5	P7
lane 2	P1 9:2		P3	P4	P6	S1

or 1 lane CSI:
lane 1	P0 P1 P2 P3 S0 P4 P5 P6 P7 S1 P8 P9 ...

etc.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-30 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-07  2:11 [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] [media] dt-bindings: Add bindings for i.MX media driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:55   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 19:03     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 12:09       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 17:13         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: Add compatible, clocks, irqs to MIPI CSI-2 node Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:57   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 22:40     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: Add mipi_ipu1/2 multiplexers, mipi_csi, and their connections Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: add media device Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] ARM: dts: imx6qdl-sabrelite: remove erratum ERR006687 workaround Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 11:59   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabrelite: add OV5642 and OV5640 camera sensors Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 12:03   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 23:04     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 12:55       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 17:15         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:17         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-30 22:28   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-30 22:51   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-05 15:24     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-05 15:37       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabresd: " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: create i2cmux for i2c3 Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add reset-gpios property for max7310_b Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add pinctrl for gpt input capture Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-12 19:37   ` Tim Harvey
2017-01-12 23:40     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] ARM: dts: imx6-sabreauto: add the ADV7180 video decoder Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] add mux and video interface bridge entity functions Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 13:56   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-02-05 15:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06 10:27     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] platform: add video-multiplexer subdevice driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-10  5:35   ` Rob Herring
2017-01-20 14:03   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24 12:02     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-25  2:07       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:48         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06  9:50           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-02-06 22:33             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-06 23:10               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 10:26                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-07 10:41                   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-07 14:11                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-07 13:36                   ` Benoit Parrot
2017-02-07 20:50                     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-07 23:04                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-24 12:44   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-01-26  1:22     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 20:46   ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-08  9:47     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-08 10:05       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] UAPI: Add media UAPI Kbuild file Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] media: Add userspace header file for i.MX Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 12:05   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-13 23:13     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-05 15:50       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] media: Add i.MX media core driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 15:20   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-14 22:46     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 13:47       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23  2:31         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-23 11:13           ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-24  1:38             ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24  1:45               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:37                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-30 15:28             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]     ` <2b1d2418-1ad4-6373-cb07-c3aeab48187f@gmail.com>
2017-01-19  1:44       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:39         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 22:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 22:50   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-07  1:54     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] media: imx: Add CSI subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-16 15:03   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-16 21:15     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 10:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 11:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  0:31     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  0:58       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 15:51   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 16:48     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01  1:40       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-07 16:18   ` [PATCH] media: imx: csi: fix crop rectangle reset in sink set_fmt Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] media: imx: Add SMFC subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01 18:39   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01 18:52     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] media: imx: Add IC subdev drivers Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:29   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-25  2:39     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] media: imx: Add Camera Interface subdev driver Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:38   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24  2:15     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 13:42     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 18:21       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 20:33         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 21:55           ` Ian Arkver
2017-01-31 22:04             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 22:33               ` Ian Arkver
2017-01-31 22:36               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31 23:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 23:41                   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 22:35   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-07  1:52     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] media: imx: Add MIPI CSI-2 Receiver " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 22:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:01   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  9:49     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01  1:02       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  1:13         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:31   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  2:11     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01 23:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02  0:04     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 11:50   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-08 23:23     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-08 23:42       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-09 23:49         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-09 23:51           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-13  9:20             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-13 23:20               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-14 16:59                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-09  9:43       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] media: imx: Add MIPI CSI-2 OV5640 sensor " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 14:48   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-25 19:10     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 23:29   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  3:31     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 10:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-12 22:53     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] media: imx: Add Parallel OV5642 " Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-07  2:11 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] ARM: imx_v6_v7_defconfig: Enable staging video4linux drivers Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-11 23:14 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver Tim Harvey
2017-01-12  3:22   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-12 21:13     ` Tim Harvey
2017-01-12 22:32       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-13 21:04         ` Tim Harvey
2017-01-20 13:52 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-20 16:31   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-20 18:40     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-20 20:39       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-23 11:00         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23 11:08           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-01-24 11:28             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-23 23:08           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-24 11:27             ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-28 19:27               ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-30 13:06               ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2017-01-31 10:09                 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 13:14                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 13:35                     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 14:04                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  0:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  1:06   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31  2:06     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31  1:22   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-01-31  9:49     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 10:21     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 11:00     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 23:43       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  0:23         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  1:54           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  9:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-31 13:54 ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 14:25   ` Philipp Zabel
2017-01-31 15:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01  1:26   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-01  9:30     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01 10:11       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-01 10:42         ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-01 10:53           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02  0:19       ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-03 14:41         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-03 17:56           ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-15  2:27   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-15  9:33     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-02-02 17:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 17:31   ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 17:56   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 18:26     ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 18:58       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-02 19:12         ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-02 22:29           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-02-03 18:49             ` Steve Longerbeam
2017-02-03 14:21           ` vb2 queue_setup documentation clarification (was "Re: [PATCH v3 00/24] i.MX Media Driver") Laurent Pinchart
2017-02-03 14:31             ` Hans Verkuil

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