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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
Cc: "Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Niklas Söderlund" <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>,
	"Benoit Parrot" <bparrot@ti.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/30] media: entity: Swap pads if route is checked from source to sink
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:18:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190222121811.GU3522@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190218092107.omddljghnv3l2ss6@uno.localdomain>

Hi Jacopo,

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:21:07AM +0100, Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 05:20:30PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 05:15:06PM +0200, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:57:43AM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This way the pads are always passed to the has_route() op sink pad first.
> >>>> Makes sense.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything in the API that mandates one pad to be a sink and the
> >>> other pad to the a source ? I had designed the operation to allow
> >>> sink-sink and source-source connections to be checked too.
> >>
> >> Do you have a use case in mind for sink--sink or source--source routes? The
> >> routes are about flows of data, so I'd presume only source--sink or
> >> sink--source routes are meaningful.
> >>
> >> If you did, then the driver would have to handle that by itself. This still
> >> simplifies the implementation for drivers that do not.
> >
> > I don't have use cases for such routes, but we use the has_route
> > operation when traversing pipelines, and at that point we need to get
> > all the internally connected pads. In another patch in this series you
> > implement a helper function that handles this, but its implementation
> > isn't complete. I explained in my review of that patch that I fear a
> > correct generic implementation would become quite complex, while the
> > complexity should be easy to handle on the driver side as the code can
> > then be specialized for the case at hand.
> >
> 
> As a compromise, in v3 I'm thinking of maintaining support for the
> most common case of two sources connected to the same sink, as
> Sakari's patch does, but let more complex cases be handled by the
> driver implementation of has_route().
> 
> Ack?

I fear this will be confusing for subdevs, as they would have to
implement part of the operation.

Could it be that the subdev has_route operation isn't the best API for
the job, if it gets that complex ? I wonder if it would be easier to
create another operation that takes a pad index as argument, and returns
the list of pads (possibly as a bitmask ?) or connected pads.
media_entity_has_route() could easily be implemented on top of that, and
these new semantics may be easier for subdevs to implement.

> >>> If your goal is to simplify the implementation of the .has_route()
> >>> operation in drivers, I would instead sort pad0 and pad1 by value.
> >>
> >> That'd be another option to make the order deterministic for the driver.
> >> I'm fine with that as well.
> 
> In v3 I have taken both suggestions in: try the "sink then source" order
> first, then order by index in case the pads are of the same time. This
> needs to be documented in has_route() operation definition though.
> 
> Would that be fine with you?

I think that's the worst of both worlds from a subdev point of view :-)

> >>>> Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
> >>>> Reviewed-by: Niklas Söderlund <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  drivers/media/media-entity.c | 4 ++++
> >>>>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/media/media-entity.c b/drivers/media/media-entity.c
> >>>> index 3c0e7425c8983b45..33f00e35ccd92c6f 100644
> >>>> --- a/drivers/media/media-entity.c
> >>>> +++ b/drivers/media/media-entity.c
> >>>> @@ -249,6 +249,10 @@ bool media_entity_has_route(struct media_entity *entity, unsigned int pad0,
> >>>>  	if (!entity->ops || !entity->ops->has_route)
> >>>>  		return true;
> >>>>
> >>>> +	if (entity->pads[pad0].flags & MEDIA_PAD_FL_SOURCE
> >>>> +	    && entity->pads[pad1].flags & MEDIA_PAD_FL_SINK)
> >>>> +		swap(pad0, pad1);
> >>>> +
> >>>>  	return entity->ops->has_route(entity, pad0, pad1);
> >>>>  }
> >>>>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(media_entity_has_route);

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-22 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-01 23:31 [PATCH v2 00/30] v4l: add support for multiplexed streams Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 01/30] media: entity: Use pad as a starting point for graph walk Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 21:43   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 02/30] media: entity: Use pads instead of entities in the media graph walk stack Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 22:03   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-15 22:13     ` Sakari Ailus
2019-01-15 22:07   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 03/30] media: entity: Walk the graph based on pads Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 22:21   ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]     ` <20190115223406.mxgzl36cp54gb7nv@kekkonen.localdomain>
2019-01-15 23:28       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 14:50         ` Sakari Ailus
2019-02-14 15:15   ` Jacopo Mondi
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 04/30] v4l: mc: Start walk from a specific pad in use count calculation Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 22:24   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-15 22:36     ` Sakari Ailus
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 05/30] media: entity: Move the pipeline from entity to pads Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 22:38   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-15 22:48     ` Sakari Ailus
2019-02-14 15:53   ` Jacopo Mondi
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 06/30] media: entity: Use pad as the starting point for a pipeline Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 22:54   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 15:31     ` Sakari Ailus
2019-01-22 15:37       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 16:16         ` Sakari Ailus
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 07/30] media: entity: Add has_route entity operation Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 08/30] media: entity: Add media_has_route() function Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 09/30] media: entity: Swap pads if route is checked from source to sink Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 22:57   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 15:15     ` Sakari Ailus
2019-01-22 15:20       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-02-18  9:21         ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-02-22 12:18           ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2019-03-04 12:35             ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-03-05 20:04               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-03-06  8:29                 ` Jacopo Mondi
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 10/30] media: entity: Use routing information during graph traversal Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 11/30] media: entity: Skip link validation for pads to which there is no route to Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 23:13   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 12/30] media: entity: Add an iterator helper for connected pads Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 23:24   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 15:36     ` Sakari Ailus
2019-01-22 15:38       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 16:21         ` Sakari Ailus
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 13/30] media: entity: Add only connected pads to the pipeline Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 23:33   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 14/30] media: entity: Add debug information in graph walk route check Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 23:35   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 15:38     ` Sakari Ailus
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 15/30] media: entity: Look for indirect routes Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 23:41   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 15:56     ` Sakari Ailus
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 16/30] v4l: subdev: Add [GS]_ROUTING subdev ioctls and operations Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-15 23:51   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 16:14     ` Sakari Ailus
2019-01-22 17:00       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-02-21 14:59     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-02-21 23:49       ` Sakari Ailus
2019-02-22  8:46         ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-02-21 14:39   ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-02-21 22:31     ` Sakari Ailus
2019-02-22  8:40       ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-02-22 11:04         ` Sakari Ailus
2019-02-22 11:17           ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-02-22 11:29             ` Sakari Ailus
2019-02-22 13:37               ` Ian Arkver
2019-02-22 13:50               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 17/30] v4l: subdev: compat: Implement handling for VIDIOC_SUBDEV_[GS]_ROUTING Niklas Söderlund
2019-01-08 10:04   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-15 23:53   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-01-22 15:57     ` Sakari Ailus
2019-02-18 11:21     ` Jacopo Mondi
2019-02-21 23:50       ` Sakari Ailus
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 18/30] v4l: subdev: Take routing information into account in link validation Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 19/30] v4l: subdev: Improve link format validation debug messages Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 20/30] v4l: mc: Add an S_ROUTING helper function for power state changes Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 21/30] v4l: Add bus type to frame descriptors Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 22/30] v4l: Add CSI-2 bus configuration " Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 23/30] v4l: Add stream to frame descriptor Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 24/30] adv748x: csi2: add translation from pixelcode to CSI-2 datatype Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 25/30] adv748x: csi2: only allow formats on sink pads Niklas Söderlund
2019-02-21 14:18   ` Jacopo Mondi
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 26/30] adv748x: csi2: describe the multiplexed stream Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 27/30] adv748x: csi2: add internal routing configuration Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 28/30] adv748x: afe: add routing support Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 29/30] rcar-csi2: use frame description information to configure CSI-2 bus Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-01 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 30/30] rcar-csi2: expose the subdevice internal routing Niklas Söderlund
2018-11-14 13:10   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2018-11-14 19:45     ` Niklas Söderlund
2018-12-03 22:16 ` [PATCH v2 00/30] v4l: add support for multiplexed streams Sakari Ailus
2018-12-05 22:09   ` Niklas Söderlund

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