From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
"Sakkinen, Jarkko" <jarkko.sakkinen@intel.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"keyrings@vger.kernel.org" <keyrings@vger.kernel.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Schofield, Alison" <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC v2 00/13] Multi-Key Total Memory Encryption API (MKTME)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 23:24:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <105F7BF4D0229846AF094488D65A0989355536E9@PGSMSX112.gar.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVztbuRUnp9MUz-Pp85NhY2htNZHGszS+mU_oWoXK3u6A@mail.gmail.com>
> I strongly suspect that, on L1TF-vulnerable CPUs, MKTME provides no
> protection whatsoever. It sounds like MKTME is implemented in the
> memory controller -- as far as the rest of the CPU and the cache hierarchy
> are concerned, the MKTME key selction bits are just part of the physical
> address. So an attack like L1TF that leaks a cacheline that's selected by
> physical address will leak the cleartext if the key selection bits are set
> correctly.
Right. MKTME doesn't prevent cache based attack. Data in cache is in clear.
Thanks,
-Kai
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-12 23:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-04 7:39 [RFC v2 00/13] Multi-Key Total Memory Encryption API (MKTME) Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 01/13] x86/mktme: Document the MKTME APIs Alison Schofield
2018-12-05 18:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-05 19:22 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-05 23:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 8:04 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 02/13] mm: Generalize the mprotect implementation to support extensions Alison Schofield
2018-12-06 8:08 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 03/13] syscall/x86: Wire up a new system call for memory encryption keys Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 04/13] x86/mm: Add helper functions for MKTME " Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-05 5:49 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 15:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-05 5:52 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-06 8:31 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 05/13] x86/mm: Set KeyIDs in encrypted VMAs Alison Schofield
2018-12-06 8:37 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 06/13] mm: Add the encrypt_mprotect() system call Alison Schofield
2018-12-06 8:38 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 07/13] x86/mm: Add helpers for reference counting encrypted VMAs Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-05 5:28 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 08/13] mm: Use reference counting for " Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 09/13] mm: Restrict memory encryption to anonymous VMA's Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-05 5:30 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-05 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 10/13] keys/mktme: Add the MKTME Key Service type for memory encryption Alison Schofield
2018-12-06 8:51 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-06 8:54 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-06 15:11 ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-06 22:56 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 11/13] keys/mktme: Program memory encryption keys on a system wide basis Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 9:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-04 9:50 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-12-05 5:44 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-05 5:43 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-05 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-05 17:26 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 7:39 ` [RFC v2 12/13] keys/mktme: Save MKTME data if kernel cmdline parameter allows Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 9:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-07 2:14 ` Huang, Kai
2018-12-07 3:42 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-07 6:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-07 6:45 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-07 11:47 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-12-04 7:40 ` [RFC v2 13/13] keys/mktme: Support CPU Hotplug for MKTME keys Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-05 5:32 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-05 5:36 ` Alison Schofield
2018-12-04 9:25 ` [RFC v2 00/13] Multi-Key Total Memory Encryption API (MKTME) Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-04 9:46 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-12-05 20:32 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-06 11:22 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-12-06 14:59 ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-07 10:12 ` Huang, Kai
2018-12-06 21:23 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-07 11:54 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-12-04 19:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 20:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-04 20:32 ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-05 22:19 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-07 2:05 ` Huang, Kai
2018-12-07 6:48 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-12-07 11:57 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-12-07 21:59 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-07 23:45 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-07 23:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-08 1:33 ` Huang, Kai
2018-12-08 3:53 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-12 15:31 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-12 16:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-12 16:43 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-12 23:27 ` Huang, Kai
2018-12-13 5:49 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-13 5:52 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2018-12-12 23:24 ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2018-12-07 23:35 ` Eric Rannaud
2018-12-05 23:49 ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-06 1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 1:25 ` Dan Williams
2018-12-06 15:39 ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-06 19:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 19:31 ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-07 1:55 ` Huang, Kai
2018-12-07 4:23 ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-07 23:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-08 1:11 ` Dave Hansen
2018-12-08 2:07 ` Huang, Kai
2018-12-05 20:30 ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
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