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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 12:53:38 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <717795270.139671.1617274418087.JavaMail.zimbra@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <27d7d3fa-5df8-1880-df21-200de31cc629@pengutronix.de>

Ahmad,

----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> Do you mean systemd-cryptsetup? It looks to me like it's just a way to supply
> the keyphrase. With trusted keys and a keyphrase unknown to userspace, this
> won't work.

Nah, I meant existing scripts/service Files.

> I don't (yet) see the utility of it without LUKS. Perhaps a command dump on how
> to do the same I did with dmsetup, but with cryptsetup plain instead could
> help me to see the benefits?

My reasoning is simple, why do I need a different tool when there is already one
that could do the task too?
Usually the systems I get my hands on use already dm-crypt with cryptsetup in some way.
So I have the tooling already in my initramfs, etc.. and need to adopt the callers of cryptsetup a little.

If I need all of a sudden different/additional tooling, it means more work, more docs to write,
more hassle with crypto/system reviewers, etc...

I don't want you to force to use cryptsetup.
The only goal was pointing out that it can be done with cryptsetup and that there
is already code such that no work is done twice.
One the kernel side it does not matter.

Thanks,
//richard

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-01 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-16 17:01 [PATCH v1 0/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] crypto: caam - add in-kernel interface for blob generator Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-21 20:46   ` Horia Geantă
2021-03-23 16:41     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] KEYS: trusted: implement fallback to kernel RNG Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 19:22   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-17 13:58     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 23:14   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17  7:39     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-17  8:07       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17 14:02     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:28       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-21 20:48   ` Horia Geantă
2021-03-23 16:35     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-23 18:07       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-03-24  9:26         ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-24 10:47           ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-24 14:07             ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-25  5:26               ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-27 12:41                 ` David Gstir
2021-03-28 20:37                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-29 10:11                     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-31 23:29                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-30  7:26                     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-31 23:30                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-04-01  7:41                         ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:47                     ` Eric Biggers
2021-03-31 23:31                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-31 23:34                         ` Eric Biggers
2021-04-01  1:11                           ` Herbert Xu
2021-04-01  5:50                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-04-01  6:03                               ` Eric Biggers
2021-04-01  5:46                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-24 16:14         ` James Bottomley
2021-03-24 20:49           ` Mimi Zohar
2021-03-24 21:58             ` James Bottomley
2021-04-02  1:49           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-03-31 18:35   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:15     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:23       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-16 23:10 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] " Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17 14:08   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:50     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:04       ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:20         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:28           ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:53             ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2021-04-01 10:57               ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 11:05                 ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 11:13                   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 11:16                     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-30 22:04     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-30 22:16       ` James Bottomley
2021-03-31 18:36         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-31 18:49           ` James Bottomley
2021-03-31 19:36             ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:06               ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 13:20                 ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 18:26                   ` James Bottomley
2021-04-01 12:55       ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 13:17         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 13:30           ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 13:52             ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 13:59               ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 14:12                 ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 11:11     ` David Howells
2021-03-21 20:01 ` Horia Geantă
2021-03-23 16:34   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-24  6:23     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-23 16:37   ` Ahmad Fatoum

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