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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Gstir" <david@sigma-star.at>,
	"Sumit Garg" <sumit.garg@linaro.org>,
	"Ahmad Fatoum" <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>,
	"Mimi Zohar" <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Horia Geantă" <horia.geanta@nxp.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"James Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
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	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Aymen Sghaier" <aymen.sghaier@nxp.com>,
	"Herbert Xu" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Udit Agarwal" <udit.agarwal@nxp.com>,
	"Jan Luebbe" <j.luebbe@pengutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 14:47:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YGOcZtkw3ZM5kvl6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YGDpA4yPWmTWEyx+@kernel.org>

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 11:37:23PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, TPM trusted keys started this bad security practice, and
> obviously it cannot be fixed without breaking uapi backwards compatibility.
> 

The whole point of a randomness source is that it is random.  So userspace can't
be depending on any particular output, and the randomness source can be changed
without breaking backwards compatibility.

So IMO, trusted keys should simply be fixed to use get_random_bytes().

- Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-30 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-16 17:01 [PATCH v1 0/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] crypto: caam - add in-kernel interface for blob generator Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-21 20:46   ` Horia Geantă
2021-03-23 16:41     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] KEYS: trusted: implement fallback to kernel RNG Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 17:01 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] KEYS: trusted: Introduce support for NXP CAAM-based trusted keys Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 19:22   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-17 13:58     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-16 23:14   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17  7:39     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-17  8:07       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17 14:02     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:28       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-21 20:48   ` Horia Geantă
2021-03-23 16:35     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-23 18:07       ` Mimi Zohar
2021-03-24  9:26         ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-24 10:47           ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-24 14:07             ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-25  5:26               ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-27 12:41                 ` David Gstir
2021-03-28 20:37                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-29 10:11                     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-31 23:29                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-30  7:26                     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-31 23:30                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-04-01  7:41                         ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:47                     ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2021-03-31 23:31                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-31 23:34                         ` Eric Biggers
2021-04-01  1:11                           ` Herbert Xu
2021-04-01  5:50                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-04-01  6:03                               ` Eric Biggers
2021-04-01  5:46                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2021-03-24 16:14         ` James Bottomley
2021-03-24 20:49           ` Mimi Zohar
2021-03-24 21:58             ` James Bottomley
2021-04-02  1:49           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2021-03-31 18:35   ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:15     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:23       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-16 23:10 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] " Richard Weinberger
2021-03-17 14:08   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-30 21:50     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:04       ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:20         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:28           ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 10:53             ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:57               ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 11:05                 ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 11:13                   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 11:16                     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-30 22:04     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-30 22:16       ` James Bottomley
2021-03-31 18:36         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-03-31 18:49           ` James Bottomley
2021-03-31 19:36             ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 10:06               ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 13:20                 ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 18:26                   ` James Bottomley
2021-04-01 12:55       ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 13:17         ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 13:30           ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-04-01 13:52             ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 13:59               ` Richard Weinberger
2021-04-01 14:12                 ` Sumit Garg
2021-04-01 11:11     ` David Howells
2021-03-21 20:01 ` Horia Geantă
2021-03-23 16:34   ` Ahmad Fatoum
2021-03-24  6:23     ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-23 16:37   ` Ahmad Fatoum

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