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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
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	Jethro Beekman <jethro@fortanix.com>,
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	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org
Subject: Re: RFC: userspace exception fixups
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 07:34:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181107153452.GB22972@linux.intel.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20181107153452.Ioda4IWBl93jVX9ZHCAtrgp4U7VUlQl09X9jjFsrzL0@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrV_sMOeQGRkxoA8KMxEizagB9bD-mB2T-ro3F6O6OX9Xw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 05:17:14PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:02 PM Sean Christopherson
> <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 03:39:48PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 3:35 PM Sean Christopherson
> > > <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 03:00:56PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 13:41 -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > > > >> Sean, how does the current SDK AEX handler decide whether to do
> > > > > >> EENTER, ERESUME, or just bail and consider the enclave dead?  It seems
> > > > > >> like the *CPU* could give a big hint, but I don't see where there is
> > > > > >> any architectural indication of why the AEX code got called or any
> > > > > >> obvious way for the user code to know whether the exit was fixed up by
> > > > > >> the kernel?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The SDK "unconditionally" does ERESUME at the AEP location, but that's
> > > > > > bit misleading because its signal handler may muck with the context's
> > > > > > RIP, e.g. to abort the enclave on a fatal fault.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On an event/exception from within an enclave, the event is immediately
> > > > > > delivered after loading synthetic state and changing RIP to the AEP.
> > > > > > In other words, jamming CPU state is essentially a bunch of vectoring
> > > > > > ucode preamble, but from software's perspective it's a normal event
> > > > > > that happens to point at the AEP instead of somewhere in the enclave.
> > > > > > And because the signals the SDK cares about are all synchronous, the
> > > > > > SDK can simply hardcode ERESUME at the AEP since all of the fault logic
> > > > > > resides in its signal handler.  IRQs and whatnot simply trampoline back
> > > > > > into the enclave.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Userspace can do something funky instead of ERESUME, but only *after*
> > > > > > IRET/RSM/VMRESUME has returned to the AEP location, and in Linux's
> > > > > > case, after the trap handler has run.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jumping back a bit, how much do we care about preventing userspace
> > > > > > from doing stupid things?
> > > > >
> > > > > My general feeling is that userspace should be allowed to do apparently
> > > > > stupid things. For example, as far as the kernel is concerned, Wine and
> > > > > DOSEMU are just user programs that do stupid things. Linux generally tries
> > > > > to provide a reasonably complete view of architectural behavior. This is
> > > > > in contrast to, say, Windows, where IIUC doing an unapproved WRFSBASE May
> > > > > cause very odd behavior indeed. So magic fixups that do non-architectural
> > > > > things are not so great.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, but what if we only did fixup on ENCLU
> > > > with a specific (ignored) prefix pattern?  I.e. effectively make the magic
> > > > fixup opt-in, falling back to signals.  Jamming RIP to skip ENCLU isn't
> > > > that far off the architecture, e.g. EENTER stuffs RCX with the next RIP so
> > > > that the enclave can EEXIT to immediately after the EENTER location.
> > > >
> > >
> > > How does that even work, though?  On an AEX, RIP points to the ERESUME
> > > instruction, not the EENTER instruction, so if we skip it we just end
> > > up in lala land.
> >
> > Userspace would obviously need to be aware of the fixup behavior, but
> > it actually works out fairly nicely to have a separate path for ERESUME
> > fixup since a fault on EENTER is generally fatal, whereas as a fault on
> > ERESUME might be recoverable.
> >
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> >
> > do_eenter:
> >     mov     tcs, %rbx
> >     lea     async_exit, %rcx
> >     mov     $EENTER, %rax
> >     ENCLU
> 
> Or SOME_SILLY_PREFIX ENCLU?

Yeah, forgot to include that.

> >
> > /*
> >  * EEXIT or EENTER faulted.  In the latter case, %RAX already holds some
> >  * fault indicator, e.g. -EFAULT.
> >  */
> > eexit_or_eenter_fault:
> >     ret
> 
> But userspace wants to know whether it was a fault or not.  So I think
> we either need two landing pads or we need to hijack a flag bit (are
> there any known-zeroed flag bits after EEXIT?) to say whether it was a
> fault.  And, if it was a fault, we should give the vector, the
> sanitized error code, and possibly CR2.

As Jethro mentioned, RAX will always be 4 on a successful EEXIT, so we
can use RAX to indicate a fault.  That's what I was trying to imply with
EFAULT.  Here's the reg stuffing I use for the POC:

	regs->ax = EFAULT;
	regs->di = trapnr;
	regs->si = error_code;
	regs->dx = address;


Well-known RAX values also means the kernel fault handlers only need to
look for SOME_SILLY_PREFIX ENCLU if RAX==2 || RAX==3, i.e. the fault
occurred on EENTER or in an enclave (RAX is set to ERESUME's leaf as
part of the asynchronous enlcave exit flow).

> >
> > async_exit:
> >     ENCLU
> 
> Same prefix here, right?
> 
> >
> > fixup_handler:
> >     <do fault stuff>
> 
> This whole thing is a bit odd, but not necessarily a terrible idea.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-07 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-01 17:53 RFC: userspace exception fixups Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-01 17:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-01 18:09 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-01 18:09   ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-01 18:30   ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 18:30     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 19:00   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-01 19:00     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-01 18:27 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 18:27   ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 18:33 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-01 18:33   ` Jann Horn
2018-11-01 18:52   ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 18:52     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 19:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 19:10       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 19:31       ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 19:31         ` Rich Felker
2018-11-01 21:24         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 21:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 23:22           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-01 23:22             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 16:30             ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 16:30               ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 16:37               ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 16:37                 ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 16:52                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 16:52                   ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 16:56                   ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 16:56                     ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 17:01                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:01                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:05                       ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 17:05                         ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-02 17:16                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:16                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:32                           ` Rich Felker
2018-11-02 17:32                             ` Rich Felker
2018-11-02 17:12                     ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:12                       ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 22:42                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-02 22:42                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-02 16:56               ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 16:56                 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 17:06                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:06                   ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:13                   ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 17:13                     ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 17:33                     ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:33                       ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 17:48                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 17:48                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 18:27                         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 18:27                           ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 19:02                           ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 19:02                             ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 22:04                             ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 22:04                               ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-02 23:27                               ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 23:27                                 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 23:32                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 23:32                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-02 23:36                                   ` Jann Horn
2018-11-02 23:36                                     ` Jann Horn
2018-11-06 15:37                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 15:37                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 16:57                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 16:57                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 17:03                                       ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 17:03                                         ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 17:19                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 17:19                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 18:20                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 18:20                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 18:41                                           ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 18:41                                             ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 19:02                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 19:02                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 19:22                                               ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 19:22                                                 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 20:12                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 20:12                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:00                                                   ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 21:00                                                     ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 21:07                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:07                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:41                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:41                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 21:59                                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 21:59                                                           ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 23:00                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 23:00                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 23:35                                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 23:35                                                               ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 23:39                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-06 23:39                                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07  0:02                                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07  0:02                                                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07  1:17                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07  1:17                                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07  6:47                                                                     ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-07  6:47                                                                       ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-07 15:34                                                                     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2018-11-07 15:34                                                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 19:01                                                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 19:01                                                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 20:56                                                                         ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-07 20:56                                                                           ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 15:04                                                                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-08 15:04                                                                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-08 19:54                                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 19:54                                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 20:05                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-08 20:05                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-08 20:10                                                           ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 20:10                                                             ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 21:16                                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 21:16                                                               ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 21:50                                                               ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 21:50                                                                 ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-08 22:04                                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 22:04                                                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-09  7:12                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-09  7:12                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-06 23:17                                               ` Rich Felker
2018-11-06 23:17                                                 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-06 23:26                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-06 23:26                                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 21:27                                                   ` Rich Felker
2018-11-07 21:27                                                     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-07 21:33                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07 21:33                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-07 21:40                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-07 21:40                                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-08 15:11                                                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-08 15:11                                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-06 17:00                                     ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-06 17:00                                       ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-02 22:37             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-02 22:37               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-01 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-01 19:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-02 22:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-02 22:07   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-18  7:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-18  7:18   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-18 13:02   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-19  5:17     ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-19 14:05       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-19 14:59         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-19 15:29   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-19 16:02     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-19 17:00       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-20 10:11         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-20 15:19           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-20 22:55             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-21  5:17               ` Jethro Beekman
2018-11-21 15:17                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-24 17:07                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-26 14:35                   ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-26 22:06                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2018-11-20 18:09           ` Sean Christopherson
2018-11-20 22:46           ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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