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From: Arend Van Spriel <>
To: Douglas Anderson <>,
	Ulf Hansson <>,
	Kalle Valo <>,
	Adrian Hunter <>
	Double Lo <>,,,
	Naveen Gupta <>,
	Madhan Mohan R <>,, Wright Feng <>,
	Chi-Hsien Lin <>,,,
	Franky Lin <>,,
	Hante Meuleman <>,
	YueHaibing <>,
	"David S. Miller" <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/5] brcmfmac: sdio: Don't tune while the card is off
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:52:51 +0200
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On 6/14/2019 1:41 AM, Douglas Anderson wrote:
> When Broadcom SDIO cards are idled they go to sleep and a whole
> separate subsystem takes over their SDIO communication.  This is the
> Always-On-Subsystem (AOS) and it can't handle tuning requests.
> Specifically, as tested on rk3288-veyron-minnie (which reports having
> BCM4354/1 in dmesg), if I force a retune in brcmf_sdio_kso_control()
> when "on = 1" (aka we're transition from sleep to wake) by whacking:
>    bus->sdiodev->func1->card->host->need_retune = 1
> ...then I can often see tuning fail.  In this case dw_mmc reports "All
> phases bad!").  Note that I don't get 100% failure, presumably because
> sometimes the card itself has already transitioned away from the AOS
> itself by the time we try to wake it up.  If I force retuning when "on
> = 0" (AKA force retuning right before sending the command to go to
> sleep) then retuning is always OK.
> NOTE: we need _both_ this patch and the patch to avoid triggering
> tuning due to CRC errors in the sleep/wake transition, AKA ("brcmfmac:
> sdio: Disable auto-tuning around commands expected to fail").  Though
> both patches handle issues with Broadcom's AOS, the problems are
> distinct:
> 1. We want to defer (but not ignore) asynchronous (like
>     timer-requested) tuning requests till the card is awake.  However,
>     we want to ignore CRC errors during the transition, we don't want
>     to queue deferred tuning request.
> 2. You could imagine that the AOS could implement retuning but we
>     could still get errors while transitioning in and out of the AOS.
>     Similarly you could imagine a seamless transition into and out of
>     the AOS (with no CRC errors) even if the AOS couldn't handle
>     tuning.
> ALSO NOTE: presumably there is never a desperate need to retune in
> order to wake up the card, since doing so is impossible.  Luckily the
> only way the card can get into sleep state is if we had a good enough
> tuning to send it a sleep command, so presumably that "good enough"
> tuning is enough to wake us up, at least with a few retries.

The term "sleep command" is a bit confusing. There actually is a CMD14 
defined in the eSD spec, but that is not what we are using (unless we 
program the chip to do so) here. It is simply a specific register access 
using CMD52.

Apart from that....

Reviewed-by: Arend van Spriel <>
> Signed-off-by: Douglas Anderson <>

I think the stable version is mostly determined by change in MMC/SDIO so 
4.18 as mentioned Adrian seems most sensible. bcm4354 support was 
introduced in 3.14 and there were some earlier devices (4335) using same 
sleep mechanism.


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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-13 23:41 [PATCH v4 0/5] brcmfmac: sdio: Deal better w/ transmission errors related to idle Douglas Anderson
2019-06-13 23:41 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] Revert "brcmfmac: disable command decode in sdio_aos" Douglas Anderson
2019-06-13 23:41 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mmc: core: API to temporarily disable retuning for SDIO CRC errors Douglas Anderson
2019-06-14 12:04   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-14 16:41     ` Doug Anderson
2019-06-17  7:53       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-17  8:30   ` Adrian Hunter
2019-06-13 23:41 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] brcmfmac: sdio: Disable auto-tuning around commands expected to fail Douglas Anderson
2019-06-17  8:33   ` Adrian Hunter
2019-06-17 10:35   ` Arend Van Spriel
2019-06-13 23:41 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] mmc: core: Add sdio_retune_hold_now() and sdio_retune_release() Douglas Anderson
2019-06-14 12:09   ` Ulf Hansson
2019-06-14 16:38     ` Doug Anderson
2019-06-14 17:17       ` Arend Van Spriel
2019-06-17  8:46       ` Adrian Hunter
2019-06-17  8:34   ` Adrian Hunter
2019-06-13 23:41 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] brcmfmac: sdio: Don't tune while the card is off Douglas Anderson
2019-06-17  8:28   ` Adrian Hunter
2019-06-17 10:52   ` Arend Van Spriel [this message]

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